David Haye p4p?

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  1. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where do you rate him p4p? I think his win over Mormeck is seriously underrated tbh, it was one helluva KO and he is now the undisputed champ at cruiser at only 26 and with only about 20 fights. Sure he is flawed, but you cant write off his accomplishments and immense talent just because of having a leaky defense and shaky chin. He has accomplished in 20 fights what most British fighters under guys like Warren achieve in 40 if they are lucky.

    I think he deserves to sneak into the top 20, you cannot just ignore a guy who has just brutally KOed the undisputed man at his weight and at a pretty young and inexperienced age and career point. What the **** has a guy like Guzman or Mijares achieved that he hasn't? Okay Mijares Koed Arce, thats about an equal achievement I guess. (Although he was jointly tied at the top of his weight class with Vic)
    While Guzman has looked impressive against B class fighters, but is far from Haye's achievement level.

    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No, too flawed of a fighter, only if he does something decent at HW, or clears CW some more.

    Mormeck was an extremely poor champion, I thank Haye for ending his reign.
     
  3. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mormeck beat some good fighters, and is a good fighter himself. He was a proper unified champ, he was a good champion. Not great but a good champ nonetheless. 85% of active 'Champions' are worse than Mormeck was he beat the best in his division and unified that much makes him a GOOD CHAMPION. Its easy to say anyone was **** when they get beat.
     
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    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Top 20-25
     
  6. tragicliston

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    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    If it wasn't for Mormeck, I don't think there would have been unification fights at cruiser. He beat very good fighters and lots of decent ones. Mormeck was a good champ. Your statement is very unfair to him.
     
  8. Haye

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    Well what does no mean?
     
  9. Haye

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    Spot on, like I said he was a very good champ.
     
  10. Haye

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    Like it or not he just brutally Koed the undisputed champ at his weight. How is Mormeck a nobody?
     
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  12. The taff

    The taff Active Member Full Member

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    I dont see how he can be above every heavyweight except Wlad, when he's only had 1 fight at that weight.

    How do they come to that conclusion?
     
  13. tragicliston

    tragicliston Active Member Full Member

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    Because they are ranking him P4P, not as a heavyweight.
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I said Mormeck was **** well before the Haye fight, it's why I picked Haye instead of Mormeck to begin with.
     
  15. dwilson

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    I'm British so i'll give him a generous 37 in the p4p list.