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Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Jun 8, 2022.


Who wins?

  1. Ageless Willard

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  2. Prime Ali

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Patterson would have destroyed Willard with hooks as would Liston.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No he had parkinson`s.
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think it'd probably look a bit like the first fight with Liston.
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I'd pick ageless Willard against Patterson
     
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  5. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Well the question asks until Ali won title from Liston, perhaps we ought to remember that in the fight prior to the Liston bout Clay as he was then known was put to the canvas by a 6'1 185 pound Henry Cooper, i guess who do we see as the tougher harder hitting opponent Cooper or the 6'6 240+ pound Willard.

    I of course think Ali beats Willard, but Ali was no Dempsey regarding ferocity of attack and Willard had good gas tank so distinct possibility he sees the final bell.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Willard was nowhere near as good or as powerful as Liston, he didn`t have Liston`s jab.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Cooper would have knocke Willard out with that hook and had far quicker hands than Willard.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol! Patterson was super quick and powerful, Wilard was clumsy and slow.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    That wouldn't stop him.
     
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  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Did you read what the premise is?
     
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  11. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the WRONG place to get tired
     
  12. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah. So FINALLY we get Concussion Proof WONDER WILLARD, with 50 more years of experience!

    A lot depends on if we can keep him motivated enough to keep him fighting the best fighters throughout those 50 years, win, lose, or draw. If we can keep him going, he would probably attract some pretty good trainers and promoters along the way. This entire scenario has money written all over it.

    If we could keep Jess motivated and learning along the way, he could probably have a few minor moments against Muhammad Ali and give at least a decent account of himself. I do think that Prime Ali's abilities would be a bit too much for Jess. Even Wonder Willard would have had his limitations. I'm going with Muhammad Ali by unanimous 15 round decision.
     
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  13. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This man is no ones fool, Einstein would have struggled to conceive this prognosis, go to the head of the class buddy.
     
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  14. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As an aside, I envision Wonder Willard, making his entrance down the aisle to the ring, riding on a HUGE animal.

    :bananaride
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Wouldn't a better question, be which is the youngest version of Ali, that this version of Willard would beat?
     
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