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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    90s bc they weren’t tested.
     
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    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    now. better drugs & look at extra size & stronger fighters.
     
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    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Evander "Real Deal" Holyfield Vs Jarrel "Meal Deal" Miller. . . .

    I'll go with Evan
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    They’re definitely bigger now than in the late 80s, which is due to USSR collapse and other factors more than PEDs.
     
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  7. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    90s because Vitor Belfort.
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    PEDS don’t make people taller.
     
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  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    90s. Not even close. Back then you could take one 76mg parabolan a week and barely stop sweating ever. One organon sust amp a week and not keep your **** down. Today it’s UGL garbage by comparison
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    from boxrec top twenty
    Usyk—Ukraine
    Joshua—First gen Nigerian
    Ortiz, Sanchez—Cuban
    Parker—Polynesian
    Bakole—DRC
    Gassiev, Zhang, Pulev, Hrgovic—Former Commie territory

    —>higher global access
     
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  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe getting rid of 15 rounders took a few years for men to adjust. Able to get bigger without worrying about stamina
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Not enough evidence that they ever were gassing out. Foreman had better stamina as a fat guy
     
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He learned to relax more and pace better but good point
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    The record is held by Kownacki and Arreola, even better.

    @Gazelle Punch's theory is not backed by significant evidence that I'm aware of.
     
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would wager on average stamina is down. I can look at some punch stats of some prominent fighters before the steroid and after. I don’t think one or two fights paints the whole picture.
     
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