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  1. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he was a sort of cross over fighter.
    He held a lot in the then conventional way, but when he opened up he looked devastating.
    I suspect he was also extremely strong.
    Imagine him today.
     
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  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Jack Johnson was fantastic, but his style was probably about as far away from modern as any heavyweight champion we have on film.
     
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  3. janitor

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    You would be on pretty safe ground saying Joe Gans.

    Anything earlier becomes hard to interpret.
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He'd be a terror. Strong, crafty and intelligent. His uppercut was a nasty weapon apparently.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yep I agree with that but johnson definitely changed boxing. He was different from all those before him.
    A one of a kind.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was going to say the same thing. Tommy Burns' fights can be a fun watch. I really like the Burns-Moir fight. Burns has good defensive footwork. Jabs well. Throws hard shots with good balance.

    What's interesting is he lost his title to a guy who I don't think looks modern at all, in Jack Johnson.

    One of those, one step forward (Burns), two steps (Johnson and Willard) back scenarios.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    Gans may not have won the heavyweight championship tho.
     
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  8. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dempsey and Gene Tunney...
     
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  9. janitor

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    If in doubt, read the thread title!
     
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  10. Greb5000

    Greb5000 New Member Full Member

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    Dempsey
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Has to be Corbett .. three minute rounds. Gloves. A ring. No wrestling.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    It is not impossible that there were bareknuckle fighters who looked quite like a modern fighter, even if there were regarded as being unconventional at the time.

    There were probably an enormous number of technical variations among fighters, then as now.
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He has yet to be born.
     
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  14. janitor

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    You could chose any five fighters from the 21st century, and if they were the only five that you had film of, then you would still be missing out on a lot!
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Gets us all at times that's for sure.
     
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