Deontay "Swinging" Wilder

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  1. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crude style, but how many conservative European style do we have in the top 10? Wilder is a good addition. I hope he does well.
     
  2. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huey DOES look really, really good. I just hope he gets with a real trainer, not his uncle & Dad like Fury is doing. Huey Fury is definitely another HW prospect to keep an eye on.


    Now you're just being silly. Or YDKSAB, I can't quite tell.

    Probably the former. :cool:
     
  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is that so?

    I would think if the execution of the punch looks like a looping hayemaker rather than a technically sound punch then it would pass as 'wild'.

    A wild punch can land and still be wild. A technically sound punch can miss and still be a good punch. Just my opinion.
     
  4. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Harrison was leading on the scorecards until the premature stoppage, and Wilder should've been DQ'd for hitting A-Force while he was on a knee.

    The result is therefore-

    Harrison EVT1 Wilder
     
  5. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey, you're correct! I hadn't seen that angle before. Harrison was sitting in the ropes the entire time. He was not down & he was not on a knee, so Wilder had every right to keep throwing.

    - And I mis-counted als: Wilder landed SEVEN of his first 8 punches, not 4 out of five. You need the proper angle, and slo-mo, to see it clearly.
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    Haterz still gonna hate, of course. Haterz won't even watch the video, because they don't want to know. What a very strange world .....
     
  6. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    There's a way to go about things though, and if Wilder wants to be a top fighter somewhere down the line, then he needs to tighten up his offence. When you're literally throwing yourself off balance with your own power then you're not only wasting energy but you're leaving yourself exposed to counter shots with a vengeance. Aggression and killer instinct is fine, but when you get to a certain stage then it has to be tempered with technique, because there's no guarantee that a hurt fighter is necessarily a done fighter, and I don't think Jonty has the experience yet to tell the difference.

    Killer instinct is great, and Jonty has it in droves, but you only have to look at Tomasz Adamek vs Travis Walker to see what mindless aggression gets you. Travis dropped Adamek and had him badly hurt and, as usual, went in for the kill, throwing wild swings, some of which landed, but a lot of which were dodged, gassed himself out, got caught by a counter right, dropped, and couldn't recover. That's the sort of situation Wilder's setting himself up for unless he tightens it up more. I'm not saying he shouldn't jump on fighters when he sees them hurt, but he needs to learn to take them out with a minimum of wasted energy and danger to himself. That's why I think he badly needs to get into the ring with a tough journeyman who won't fall over at the first opportunity. If he wants to continue to fight on these shores, and I hope he does, then someone like Matt Skelton would be ideal.
     
  7. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^ Yes, I agree for the most part. Only two caveats:

    1: Wilder does waste some energy, I agree, and a few times he could MAYBE be accused of lunging in a bit, but he's REALLY not as careless as many seem to think. Loom how careful he was agaisnr Kelvin price. Folks complain he took too long, (!) but he was being smart, not taking Price for granted. Watch his spectacular defense against Kelsey Arnold, or his controlled, balanced attack against DeAndrey Abron. Have you actually seen these fights?

    Even forgetting his other fights and just studying the Harrison KO, again, he landed 4 out of the first 5 shots, and possibly 7 out of the first eight. Plus, Harrison was literally sitting in the ropes. There is NO CHANCE he could have thrown a counter, even if he were playing possum.

    2: The trick, I suppose, is to not throw so much that you gas out yourself, creating the possibility of a surprise counter, as in your perfect example above. (Also Foreman vs Ali, for a classic example) I could also see Wilder actually gassing in the late rounds, if he were to throw a lot of bombs against someone like Haye, and miss. - But that's a minor concern given the condition Wilder is always in.

    But sure, Wilder desperately needs to face guys who will expose his weaknesses. There's no argument there. He needs to tuck his chin more, and he sure could use some sideways movement (though Wlad gets by without any.) If you consider Wilder's show-closing, crowd-pleasing windmill routine to be part of those weaknesses, then no problem. I still don't.


    - But it's nice to have an actual, fact-based & reasonable discussion about the guy. for a change!
     
  8. carlos200587

    carlos200587 Active Member Full Member

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    i cant believe i actually know people that put money on audley
     
  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Harrison gets bombed out by gatekeepers. Everyone knew this was coming.

    Wilder-Haye is the fight to make:deal
     
  10. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder was only swinging to finish a guy incapable of hitting back, the punch that hurt Audley was a good shot.
     
  11. RazorHandz

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    Let's not get carried away.
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Wilder was amazing that night :lol: Some fighters go for the kill but god damn :rofl:rofl:rofl
    Wilder just unleashed absolutley everything he had. I was surprised that Harrison even got back up after that :nut
     
  13. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Harrison's future children are gonna' be born with bruises all over their bodies. :lol:
     
  14. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Everything you say is true about the fight.

    However, the poor refereeing ruined both Wilders and Audleys opportunity to show who was the better man on the night.

    In case of an ACCIDENTAL foul......which is clearly the case here....(I don't think anyone believes that Wilder intentionally hit Audley while he was down)
    the fighter who is fouled is to be given up to 5 minutes to recover.

    Had Audley been given adequate recovering time, and Wilder still went on to get the KO, I don't think anyone would be criticizing his wild swinging post fight.:think
     
  15. §weet §cience

    §weet §cience Doctor of Pugilism Full Member

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    Was gonna post this

    Awful

    He looked like he was throwing curveballs.