Diaz brothers....

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Addie, Apr 19, 2010.


  1. J_Roth

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  2. chimba

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    Nick is still butt hurt from the Diego beating. He just wants some attention, he aint that good.
     
  3. fightfan311

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    this is exactly right and anyone who does not know the struggles of mma trying to reach main stream does not know the sport very well. this could really hurt the chances of future prime time events on cbs which is what can make mma more main stream.
     
  4. (PimpThaSystem)

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    You mean the same CBS that used to run cards with this guy in the mainevent?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsMNkFVQK3c[/ame]

    If I were Strikeforce I'd be more worried about the drop off in the ratings...
     
  5. fightfan311

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    wow you really dont get it nice try twisting things around. you are the ONLY one i see on this thread that does not see this as a bad thing. could it possibly be YOU who is wrong?
     
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  7. Delroc

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    Young Buck went off on that song
     
  8. (PimpThaSystem)

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    I said I don't condone what the Diaz brothers did but I'm also not one to pass judgment on someone I don't know personally. Everyone is really blowing this out of proportion. These thing happen. The best thing to do is treat it like any other sport and not buy in to the nonsense that the sports image has somehow been compromised. The public has a short attention span and it's not exactly hard to discredit MMA anyway. Its the closest thing to real fighting there is besides Youtube. At the end of the day, were the Diaz brothers the first guys to start a brawl in MMA? No. Will they be the last guys? Maybe for a while. Will CBS still show the next Fedor fight regardless of what happened? Yes.
     
  9. codeman99998

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    You know Osama Bin Laden personally? You just said some dumb ****.
     
  10. fightfan311

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    i think any mma or boxing fan will understand this stuff happens the problem is trying to draw in new fans who may look at it and say something like "this is stupid what a bunch of barbarians". Like another poster already mentioned mma has always been under a microscope and this does not help. There will hopefully be some suspensions or bans for the idiots involved.
     
  11. (PimpThaSystem)

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    :-( What kind of fans do you think MMA orgs are trying to attract? Middle aged women? MMA has a solid fanbase thats only going to grow as time goes on I wouldn't worry about it.
     
  12. fightfan311

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    :patsch this does not help grow the fanbase and I will bet you some of the guys involved will be used to make an example. There are already investigations taking place and if you don't think this is a black eye for the sport being on CBS you are WRONG. Did you hear the announcer saying Hey we are on NATIONAL tv guys!!!!
     
  13. fightfan311

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    maybe this will help, I highlighted a part for you



    Tennessee Athletic Commission Executive Director Jeff Mullen on Monday confirmed that the sanctioning body was actively investigating the post-fight brawl that marred the nationally televised
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    event.

    Mullen declined to comment further, saying a decision to do so this early in the process would be “out of line.” However, he did indicate it may take a month or longer to sort out the details. The brawl between Jason “Mayhem” Miller and the camp of Strikeforce middleweight champion
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    tarnished an otherwise smooth show on Saturday at the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tenn.

    Miller, unbeknownst to Strikeforce officials, entered the cage while CBS was interviewing Shields following his unanimous decision victory over two-time Olympian and UFC expatriate
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    in the main event. The former Icon Sport champion interrupted the interview and asked Shields for a rematch, setting off an ugly scene inside the cage and perhaps jeopardizing the promotion’s future on network television.

    The brawl involved several members of the Shields camp, including Strikeforce lightweight champion
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    , Strikeforce welterweight titleholder
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    and “The Ultimate Fighter” Season 5 winner
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    . Melendez and the Diaz brothers were licensed to corner Shields, according to Mullen.

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    , who trains Shields, Melendez and the Diazes, called the incident isolated and vowed to help prevent similar events from transpiring in the future.

    “Unfortunately, the-after fight skirmish shifted the focus away from what was probably Jake and Gil’s biggest wins, and that was very disappointing,” he told GracieFighter.com. “We’re a very tight team, and in all the years we’ve hung out together, there has never been a team street fight or anything like that associated with us.

    “After reviewing the tape, I think I saw a lot of blame on all sides,” Gracie added. “I have spoken to my guys and with Strikeforce to make sure this never happens again. There were people in there that had come to support our team that really should never have been in there, as well. Those people that participated have been banned from future events.”

    Gracie went on to apologize for the melee.

    “That night in Nashville was emotionally charged, and I wish cooler heads had prevailed,” he said. “I think it would be better if we fight in a professional manner and not in free-for-alls. For the disruption it has caused, we are sorry and would like to extend an apology.”

    Melendez, who trains with Shields in San Francisco, explained his mindset and actions at a post-fight press conference.

    “It was Jake’s moment,” Melendez said. “He’d just fought five rounds. He beat a living legend here, and I just didn’t want anyone to steal his moment right there. What did [Miller] do that for? I just felt like he needed to give him some space.”

    Shields was not surprised by Miller’s behavior. He defeated Miller by unanimous decision to win the Strikeforce middleweight championship in November.

    “He carries himself in a disrespectful way,” Shields said. “It’s just his personality. We’ve been friends in the past. We’ve been enemies in the past.”

    Those involved in the fracas could face disciplinary action, not only from the Tennessee Athletic Commission but also Strikeforce itself. Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker, who was backstage when the brawl occurred, said there was no place for such activity in mixed martial arts.

    “Obviously, there’s suspensions and there’s going to be sanctions, things like that that we can do, but I want to take a look at the footage,” he said at a post-fight press conference. “Let’s see who threw the first punch or blow, because I didn’t see it. It has no room in our sport because the sport is young. It has no room in any league. When this happens, it affects the entire sport.”
     
  14. (PimpThaSystem)

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    I'm an ethical subjectivist. I believe theres no such thing as good or evil; rather morality was invented to make society possible. I think having good morals is important but since I know they are subjective, I can't bring myself to judge people seriously. Osama's responsible for some pretty horrible things but how can I judge him when if I was born in Afghanistan he'd probably be my idol?