Does freddie roach's...

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  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    ****-a-Roach wanted to shut Juan and Nacho up but they ended up shutting his stupid ass up instead...AGAIN :lol: :rofl :patsch
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :yep
     
  3. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    No. Nacho and JMM just know how to push Pacs **** in.
     
  4. jakelamotta

    jakelamotta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm going to have to rewatch this fight and see exactly what he was saying in the corner. Pacquiao's corner seems hectic with the fat Filipino friend and Ariza...
     
  5. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its not so easy when the opponents aren't flat footed come forward fighters.
     
  6. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    Every fighter has a bad night in the office. Pac just had his 1st bad night in a long time and we blame Roach? GTFO.

    I dont think the way JMM fought was some brilliant strategising by Nacho either. Manny like an opponent to stand and deliver,but JMM played the role of the counter puncher,which is what he is stylistically.

    JMM knows how to lead on offense very well, but chose to maintain his distance with precision,and he let Pac make the mistakes that he could capitalise upon by doing so.


    I tend to think that Roach thought that a JMM come forward attack was the way they were going to fight and he was wrong. I think JMM won but perhaps only because Pacman looked less than he did in his last 6 fights?

    I know the punch stats seem to highly favor Pac.

    I do feel for JMM,but in hindsight I think maybe he should of backed Manny up at certain points to make sure of the points advantage he needed to win the attention of the judges.jus sayin.:hat
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Freddie's reputation usually takes a hit when predicting a Pacquiao fight. He always says Pacquiao will ko this guy and that guy, I bet in a fantasy fight between Jesus and Pacquiao that Freddie would predict Pacq KO 1. Freddie is still a great trainer but he can't fight his fighter's battles for them. It was Khan's fault for getting caught over and over again by Maidana's uppercuts and it's Pacquiao's fault he can't cut off a ring and gets too reckless. Also, JMM is poison to Pacq so lets give him credit for beating Pacq....again.....for the third time.
     
  8. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    I was wonfering why Freddy Roach allowed all that in the corner and thought that maybe buboy was translating stuff but not very likely when Freddy hadnt said much yet.

    Too many voice in that corner for it to be a calming influence on any fighter.:deal
     
  9. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, Bareera is a flat footed come forward fighter. How in the hell did that guy survive Hamed fighting like that? :patsch
     
  10. The man's shaking is uncomfortable to look at. I think in two years, maybe even one year he won't be able to train.
     
  11. DefensiveWiz

    DefensiveWiz New Member Full Member

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    It's not freddys fault pac wasn't taught how to box. He's too busy with politics and singing to learn now.
     
  12. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He should have got his fighter to adjust in the fight. A trainer is as good as his boxers. He just has to get the most out of them and freddie has done a good job.
     
  13. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fighter is ultimately the one responsible for what happens inside the ring.