Dubois next opponent

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  1. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For me Warren should have from the start not stepped him to proper world level before his 20/25th fight as he has no amateur background.

    I would now go back and give him another 6 or 7 fights. Three confidence boosters against the likes of Webb, Browne and kash ali before stepping him up to an actual fringe level rather than some of the scrubs on the WBO top 15 like fujimoto and Tetteh.

    I would get him in 4/5 fights with the likes of Takam, Helenius, Kabayel Chisora and then a fight vs Hughie Fury to see how he deals again with a mover.

    no point rushing him again just because you need to find a PPV fighter for the platform.
     
  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You must be on some high grade
     
  3. Scissors

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    I’d think about the damage to the eye. That may be something he never gets over like Kel Brook.
     
  4. Snowy1989

    Snowy1989 Active Member Full Member

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    Not even the damage to the eye which is only worry from now on in:

    Mentally, he was exposed in there last night and crumbled when Joyce didn’t fold like previous puddings. The trainer knew it and Frampton and Haye knew it.

    After a comeback fight to blow some cobwebs off they need to double down and get him in there with a live opponent again.
     
  5. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one knows what the damage is until it is x rayed.

    However there were two reasons why he quit.
    1. He emptied the gas tank going for the KO and had nothing left. He knew it was a hopeless situation as he had no plan B.
    2. The eye was completely shut and hurting him badly.

    The first reason for quitting is the most concerning.
     
  6. Blah

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    No one decent, anyway. He’d completely soiled himself by the 3rd.
     
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think Kownacki, Ortiz and Wilder are all far too dangerous for his first one back. I think he'd likely lose to all of them.

    I think the Kownacki fight is like the Joyce one in some ways, not always the most impressive looking, but legit power and fought at a vastly higher level. I think he's far too hitable to beat a puncher like Wilder. Ortiz is another guy with solid power and tons of experience.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    He should fight Nathan Gorman again. Offer the fight to Gorman anyway.
     
  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    From his last showing Gorman has gone back significantly and has a lot of rebuilding to do. I don't think he'd take it.
     
  10. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    Dunno guys I think that's it for Dubois. It wasn't the eye that did it for him, did you not notice how his trainer had to keep giving him a pep talk between every round? He mentally lost the plot when he realised Joe had taken his best punches and the eye closing only added to his problems. An amazing study of the psychology of fighting though.
     
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  11. londonboxingess

    londonboxingess Active Member Full Member

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    He is so used to banging guys out in five, once he realised he couldn't bang him out, he was shitting himself and didn't know what to do really
     
  12. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He needs to fight someone who's a clever and experienced boxer who poses little threat. I wonder whether someone like Helenius or Washington might be a good move. You'd expect Dubois to win fairly easily, but will be an awkward night's work and a good learning fight.
     
  13. Oreet Cha!

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    Time is now Dubois best friend.

    However, is it the best friend of Warren?

    This, to myself, is the real dilemma.

    I fear that after 2 or 3 fights, Warren will rush him again. Was desperately talking about a rematch last night. Behave! At 35, Joyce can only look forwards.

    Embrace the time Frank, embrace it.
     
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  14. Scissors

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    Not a chance he would take it.

    What you could do is build them both back up over the next 18/24 months and build for that rematch.