Elite XC vs UFC

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  1. thebrodstar

    thebrodstar Active Member Full Member

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    How do you think that would fare out? UFC has lost a lot of fighter to Elite, I wonder what would happen if all the champs had it out.
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They've only got 2 champions, and one in a weightclass that doesn't really exist anywhere but EliteXC anymore. KJ Noons at 160 and Robbie Lawler at 185. Jake Shields would have been champ at 170 but Mike Pyle didn't make weight.

    KJ Noons would lose to Sherk, BJ, or Joe, whichever one of those ends up with the UFC belt at 155.

    Jake Shields is a top tier fighter and underrated by many, but I don't think he would beat GSP, I do think he would beat Serra though.

    I would love to see Lawler beat Anderson Silva, but I wouldn't bet on it thats for sure.

    Plus the UFC hasn't really "lost" fighters to EliteXC, most of them came from other orgs or were let go at some point by the UFC. Not knocking them, just the truth.

    I like EliteXC, they show some very high quality fighters that aren't quite at the very pinnacle of their weightclass, and its nice to have MMA on showtime.
     
  3. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I thought Frank Shamrock was one of their champions as well? Wasn't his fight with Baroni for the newly formed title?
     
  4. thebrodstar

    thebrodstar Active Member Full Member

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    I realize that Nick Diaz got punted by UFC, I think it is a loss to the UFC though, how did Robie Lawler end leaving?

    Yeah I love watching Elite XC, but I still love UFC the most.
     
  5. thebrodstar

    thebrodstar Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah I thought the same thing, and I don' he is done yet, he could probably do well against most in the UFC, maybe not though. He wouldn't be champ thats for sure.
     
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    if im not mistaken shamrock is the strikeforce champ
     
  7. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    You're correct. FOr some reason, I always think they are the same organization. I'm a freaking MMA fan and even I don't know the difference. Heh. :nut:patsch:rofl

    However, I will say that I have heard non-mma fans that are only familiar with the IFL - mainly because it airs on the station they watch. So, they don't even watch the UFC - just the IFL.

    I always had a hard time watching the IFL. I just wasn't familiar with enough of the fighters and for some reason it always seemed like the fights that I watched weren't very exciting.
     
  8. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Actually, out of the non-UFC orgs, IFL is my favorite, I am one of the few who actually likes the team format and likes the ring.
     
  9. Donut62

    Donut62 Active Member Full Member

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    Who needs to compete when you just make up random weight classes for each fighter!
     
  10. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I prefer the ring. The unfortunate thing about the United States are the rules preventing strikers from being able to use knees on the ground, kicks to the head of a downed opponent, which can be crucial to a striker as far as opportunities against a ground fighter.. The ring helps even things out when the rules, are well... Rules that limit fighters with legit abilities..

    Theoretically, I would like to see pride like rules in a cage, and of course allow elbows.
     
  11. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I prefer the ring as well - because the cage is used all too often as a tactic in the UFC -whereas fighting in the ring is usually free of such obstructions.

    Duke - who are the people to watch for in IFL?
     
  12. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Well, I suppose Chris Horodecki is the one IFL are trying to push the hardest, he's only 20, has the biggest potential out of any of them, he just got brutally KO'd but he'll be back.

    Alot of the fighters in the IFL are journeymen or past their best fighters. There are a few up and comers but the most interesting part is just watching the teams getting coached by all these legends and occasioanlly seeing the coaches fight one another.
     
  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The ring is just not ment for MMA, way too many stopages and breaks that change momentum and ruin the continuity of the fight.

    As far as the IFL, Jay Hieron, Delson Heleno, Matt Horwich, and Vladimir Matyushenko are my favorite fighters to watch and are all very real threats in their divisions.
     
  14. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    i agree I always hated stopping a fight because the guys are falling out of the ring and having them "resetted" back in the middle.
     
  15. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    That's why they need to have lumberjack matches - with the ring surrounded by the other fighters. Let them fall out of the ring and the others will throw them back in.