Evander Holyfield - H2H

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Jan 16, 2008.


  1. anon1

    anon1 Member Full Member

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    Dec 21, 2007
    let's see...

    lewis: w by sd
    bowe: w by sd if he is strategic regardless of bowe's physical advantages
    tyson: w tko 11
    holmes: l sd
    ali: l ud
    foreman: w sd (will explain below)
    frazier: l sd (great fight!)
    liston: l ud
    marciano: 50/50 winner will be by disputed decision
    joe louis: l tko


    vs foreman: if you stay still or slug with foreman - you're gone. holyfield has the hand speed, reach, work rate, and boxing skills to outbox foreman imo - stick and move. the occasional bomb that foreman lands on holy - holy has the resilience to deal with. your typical image of foreman pummeling an opponent against the ropes is when the opponent is (1) short reaching or not a very mobile, great boxer (2) hurt and slow to recover. holyfield wa the opposite of both, especially the latter. until the opponent was immobilized and against the ropes - foreman kept following him like a mummy with a few sloppy shots. holyfield was a special fighter and a skilled fighter - he's not easy meat for foreman.

    so what is holy's record here: 3-5-1. not bad against ATGs
     
  2. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    Apr 30, 2007
    Just throwing this out there, how do you guys see a fight going between Holyfield and Charles at heavyweight?
     
  3. anon1

    anon1 Member Full Member

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    Dec 21, 2007
    just for comparison purposes...

    let's do lewis:

    lewis - n/a
    holy - l sd
    bowe - w tko 5
    tyson - l tko
    holmes - l sd
    ali - l ud
    foreman - don't know
    frazier - ? w tko
    liston - l ud or tko
    marciano - w tko
    louis - l tko

    his record is: 3-6 - ?

    tyson:

    lewis - w tko (if someone argues the other way around - i can't blame them - this is 50/50)
    holy - l tko
    bowe - w tko
    tyson - n/a
    holmes - l tko
    ali - l tko
    foreman - l tko
    frazier - w tko
    liston - l tko
    marciano - w tko
    louis - l tko

    his record is: 4-6

    bowe:

    lewis - l tko 5
    holy - l ud
    bowe - n/a
    tyson - l tko
    holmes - l ud
    ali - l ud
    foreman - l tko
    frazier - l tko
    liston - l tko
    marciano - w tko
    louis - l tko

    record: 1-9 ; one could argue the holyfield fight. imo, holyfield fought stupid the first time and he KNEW it. he'd never pulled that stunt against tyson cause he cared too much. a fully "functional" holyfield could make it a boxing match and eke out a decision imo. as the cliche goes...anything can happen in boxing...

    CONCLUSION: holyfield did just as good as these guys. imo - he definitely makes top 10 head to head. he'd never lost to douglas, rahman, mcall, or golota. unlike lewis or tyson - the chance of a mediocre fighting beating him (at his best) is little. and prime ruiz is NOT a mediocre fighter but top 5.