Examples of ring generalship?

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  1. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    Can you recommend any fights that display what being a ring general is all about, my understanding is a little blurry. Not quite sure how to explain it.

    Thanks
     
  2. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How bout we talk about this over a nice cup of tea while were at it.
     
  3. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe - Lacy

    Edit: lots of B-Hop fights
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins vs Tito
     
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    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    well it's more easy to show who don,t have it...
    exemple..TAYLOR
     
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    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    lol ^
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    Those who dictate the pace of the fight are the ring generals. If the fighter is a boxing specialist facing a pressure fighter and he's able have the pressure fighter fight his fight or is able to get the better of the pressure fighter fighting his own fight, then he is the ring general. Hopkins against Tito is a good example. Whitaker against Chavez and Nelson are good examples. Napoles always showed a good ability to do this, but I think Monzon would probably be the best.
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Ring generalship is quite easily defined. It's the ability to get your opponent to fight the fight that suits you better than your opponent.

    Some vastly different recent fights with examples of great ring generalship:
    Mayweather-DLH
    Hopkins-Trinidad
    Hatton-Castillo
    Bika-Calzaghe (even though Bika lost the fight)
    Ruiz-Rahman
    Quintana-Williams I
    John-Marquez
    Wilson-Nwodo

    Calzaghe-Lacy is arguable, even though a lot of people cite it. I honestly feel like Lacy fought his best style, just Calzaghe figured it out. Calzaghe didn't drag Lacy into a different fight than Lacy wanted to be in, he just beat the **** out of him.

    Hopkins and Winky are probably the two best ring generals out there right now. Both consistently get their opposition to look bad by making them fight their fight.
     
  9. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Cotto is excellent at ring generalship.
     
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    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nate cambell vs diaz...


    i thought cambell totally took control of diaz and showed him that hes the older more experienced and trickier fighter...
    i felt like i was watching a senior in high school vs a freshmen in high school
     
  11. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michael Buffer ! ;)
     
  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    That's another great example.

    I don't think Cotto is much of a ring general at all. Name a fighter who he's made them change their style just because they're facing him? I can't think of any.
     
  13. southpawslick

    southpawslick Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you can find it watch Bhop against Antwun Echols 1. Echols was a muderous puncher and Hop tried to trade with him and got almost KO'ed out on his feet. He was barely able to keep upright but then he adjusted, got on his bike and got behind the jab and boxed Echols silly. It was a good example of ring generalship.
     
  14. D-MAC

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    Hopkins - Tarver
    Hopkins - Tito
    JM Marquez - Pac I
    JM Marquez - Pac II
    V Forrest - S Mosley I
    S Molitor - M Hunter
    Winky - Mosley I
    Mayweather - Hatton
    Chagaev - Valuev
    Calderon - Cazares

    To name but a few; I know that everyone won't agree.
     
  15. Osiris2k

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    Watch Floyd Mayweather fight.