Ezzard Charles once said

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Jersey Joe Walcott was the hardest puncher he faced. Yes, this includes Louis and Marciano, tho obviously Louis was over the hill.
     
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    Well he did get knocked unconcsious by a very hard Walcott punch.

    That punch was perfect. It's unlikely that many harder punches have ever been thrown. If you're talking about blunt force trauma, that punch is doing pretty much anybody it lands on, give or take. He was coming onto it, he didn't see it, and it had perfect torque. But i'd bet that was the punch Charles was referring to; rather than in an overall sense. Or is that disingenuos?
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    could be down to Joes brillaint timing and counterpunching

    a well timed shot hurts 10x more thjan a powerful but inaccutrate one
     
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    I don't think it was that punch, as truth be told he would not have even felt it. I think it would definitely be just overall power more so that that single punch. He'd probably not have even known he'd been hit. Remember, Walcott hammered him early with numerous hard hooks up and down.
     
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    True, but i think he more than took enough blows from Marciano to gauge him. Louis not so much.
     
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    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Hmm... curious on a source.

    Walcott was indeed a terrific puncher. In a sense, he's finally getting his dues on this site as a good puncher. I think he has always been a little underrated on this subject because people look at the record and such. He played it cautious, tried tricking you and got cutesy but he was a 'dynamite hitter in both hands' as Dunphy would say.
     
  7. McGrain

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    I think Walcott genuinely gets his due on the board as a puncher.
     
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    I think he's beginning to. I guess its the Rocky and 50's detractors that tend to understate this.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Well I think he always has been regarded as a puncher on this board, that's what i'm saying; based on conversations i've had with posters through the years. He's generally acknowledged as being the type of puncher thant can but anyone on their butt.
     
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    You've been here much longer so I'll take your word for it. So my account is probably a skewed view then, I guess.

    But back to the topic. JT just out of curoisity, do you have a source or anything? Just wondering where you heard this from.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

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    Walcott was a acurate pin point puncher...He had the abilty to land a perfect punch but Joe was content to box and not a homerun swinger like Marciano and Louis Tyson and Dempsey but Walcott could hit you with either hand and hurt guys like Louis,Bivins,Marciano,Charles, and the knockdowns over Marciano and Louis were clean acurate punches with the left hook (marciano) right hands(Louis 3 KDs) and Uppercook)Charles clean KO...JJW had great legs and could move well but he had power in both hands......Joe was erratic and had a rugged start but on a GOOD NIGHT he could pull an upset over any of the top 10, and that includes Ali, Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Foreman, Tyson, Liston, Lewis, Holmes, ETC.
     
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    Glad to see Jersey Joe getting deserved credit. I remember the attempt here some moons ago to equate him to a journeyman, but this topic does much to highlight his brilliant qualities as a fighter.

    Walcott had great strength, technique, all-around experience, and threw every punch from either side. This is a pretty good recipe for power in the ring. All this from a cute boxer!

    A faded Louis, without the snap of youth so key to his power, is, yes, probably a notch below Walcott here.

    Marciano should rank above Arnold in overall power, but, both hands considered, it is quite close. Charles' view is proper for a guy who met such an end against Jersey Joe, yet went 15 with the Rock.
     
  13. Bummy Davis

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    He took a lot from Marciano in fight 2 but Walcott hit him with one that seperated him from his sences...In the Louis fight he was carefull and boxed and used his legs well...I dont think Joe's power faded but his legs were not as quick. Still Ezzard would always have the style to trouble Joe Louis but not enough to beat him in his prime IMO
     
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    There is no doubt Walcott could hit, especially for a cruiser which he was. Putting down Louis and Marciano and icing Charles says a lot. His style was not that of a puncher and as a whole he was a poor finisher.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Man, it's in one of my dunny mags and there are about 20 :lol:

    If i come across it i'll be sure to post. It wasn't expanded but was from a reputable source, of course.