F***-off

If you ever wanted to know what was the definition of NUTHUGGER, HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:deal

 

Half of the people who picked Pacquiao to beat Oscar De La Hoya don't know Boxing. :verysad The people who picked Oscar didn't know he'd come to the ring weight drained and at 145lbs.

 

PHILLA.

I will discuss anything about Boxing with you. Just not Manny Pacquiao. You're in love.

I gave you my reasoning as to why I would expect Mayweather to clean Pacquiao's clocks. Nothing further to add.

 

Are you now saying that if Oscar had weighed in at 147 instead of 145, he would have won the fight? Do you really believe that there was any way Oscar was gonna win that fight against Pac?

 

One of those who picked PAC over Hoya stated before the fight that Hoya is already partially shot and of course Hoya is already old...

Many members here (I think including you) defended Hoya that he's not old and shot... :rofl
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I'm saying what I've said from the moment I saw him walk to the ring. Oscar De La Hoya was so physically incompetent as a result of making weight, that Juan Manuel Marquez would also have dominated him over 12 rounds. Freddie Roach also acknowledges that he was weight drained, and that in addition to being past his prime, made him a fairly weak opponent that night.

Had it been Barrera who fought him that night, I'd say the same thing. That's what separates me from the *******s - I need that seperation.

 

I didn't think Oscar was shot. He wasn't shot. He was past his prime, but the weight loss effectively withdrew all of his energy so that he couldn't fight effectively. I think everything that transpired on the night supports this notion, and the fact he was fighting a fighter of Manny's caliber just made it all even worse.

 

You are entitled to yuor opinion but I do think your opinion is very flawed.

I defend Pac alot on this forum because I believe he is seriously underrated but I am not in love with PAcquiao the man though I do love his ability in the ring. I'm not some nuthugger who follows the every day life of Pacquiao or gives a **** about anything he does that has nothing to do with boxing. Also I actually follow other boxers as much as I do Pac if not more.

take it for what it is. I'm not some ******* who gets offended if someone says negative about Pac but I will argue with it if I think its wrong.

 

I can't recall the last time you getting heated over a debate that didn't have something to do with Manny Pacquiao.

Elaborate on why you think my reasoning is flawed? Floyd is an excellent counter puncher, naturally bigger than Marquez, and has much faster hands. Considering Manny Pacquiao ran into the most difficulty with Marquez, what makes you think he'll fair any better against a faster and bigger skilled counter puncher in Floyd Mayweather Jr.

You say that Floyd has problems with southpaws, but his flawless record suggests otherwise, and you've still yet to elaborate - this is the second opportunity I've given you to speak up.

 

That is true,Floyd is not a big welterweight to begin with,hes really a JR.welterweight in my eyes

 

Mayweather beats JMM easily simple plain straight like that. Mayweather beats PacMan but not as easily as he beats JMM. I've watched alot of fights of JMM recently and he has a huge weakness in that he likes to lead with right hands too much sure some fighters can get away with it ( Ali, Louis, Mayweather, Hopkins) but it is a boxing cardinal rule somethins you just dont do unless you have no respect for your opponents handspeed (see Ali vs Foreman). Marquez however is not the fastest fighter in the world and is in fact a natural counterpuncher which is Mayweather specialty in outthinking these counterpunchers. Manny provides more of a challenge because he is a pressure fighter. But nonetheless Floyd handles both easily. It will take someone with handspeed and power to disrupt Floyd Mayweather (SSM or MC, both have handspeed SSM more then MC but MC has deceptive handspeed himself) Mayweather soon as he gets his promotional head screwed on right will dominate both JMM and PacMan.

 

An old Casamayor that had never been knocked out.

Of course it changes the fact. He eliminated all doubt.

Didn't Mosley struggle against Mayorga, then knocked him spark out eliminating all doubt about a decision victory

 

I have elaborated if you just look at my posts in this thread you will see that. Floyd might be undefeated but his record is not flawless. If you watch his fights you can see that like every other fighter he has flaws. Like Calzaghe who although is undefeated also has flaws.

The philly shell D is open for straight left hands up the middle, because of the position of the left shoulder and the right hand. If you look at Pac vs Oscar, think which part of Oscar's face was completely busted up by those dozens of straight lefts that he took. Its the left eye. Now pretend you are Floyd and put yourself in that stance and see what punches you are open for... The straight left to the head and the right hook to the body. Pac is the best in boxing with those two punches. Floyd is a great fighter and he can adapt to these opening but just the fact taht he has to adapt is a sign taht there is obviously something wrong.

there are other reasons Floyd will have trouble with Pac. Unlike what most people think Pac is different than your typical pressure fighter. Floyd likes it when a fighter gets in range and then opens up his offense allowing Floyd to either hit him before he gets off or slip/block and counter. Pac likes to set up on the outside, create openings with body and foot movement, then throw fast accurate combinations and move back out of range. Floyd has not fought many good fighters who like to set up on the outside. I can think of Oscar and Judah. Both fighters troubled him and neither is anywhere as good Pacquiao. Floyd will have to close the gap on Pac to be effective and I don't think he can do it without himself getting countered. JMM will answer some questions on this point but its also the reason i think JMM will give Floyd a hard fight.

Also, Pac will not fade. Floyd usually takes over fights when his opponents fade but guys like Pac who do not fade quickly and are fast starters can put alot of rounds in the bank. Castillo who had great stamina did it twice and Pac will do it too, only Pac is an even better fighter than Castillo.

 

PLEASE SHUT UPatsch

 

If Floyd was really a Jr. Welterweight he would have fought JMM at Jr. WW instead of 144.