Fighters turned ref

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  1. hdog500

    hdog500 New Member Full Member

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    How does the forum rate fighters turned refs? I'd imagine there must have been some good ones but Louis and Walcott in Ali- Liston II spring to mind and it seems like there were probably more bad ones than good ones to me.

    I need some educating on this topic.
     
  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Dempsey Sharkey Conn and Gunboat all ref's for some big bouts
     
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    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Willie Pep was the referee for Fighting Harada vs Johnny Famechon 1 and he was highly criticized for his performance that day.
     
  4. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Phillip Holiday is a decent ref these days.
     
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    USFBulls727 Active Member Full Member

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    I remember catching a fight on TV...maybe around the early to mid-90s I believe...and Ron Stander was the ref.

    Randy Neumann was a ref for awhile as well...
     
  7. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neumann was a very good Ref.
     
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    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are plenty of British Referees who were ex Fighters, both amateur and pro. Ian John-Lewisand Terry O'Connor were area Champions.

    In the 70's, Wally Thom was a former British Champion and very highly regarded Ref.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most of them (but not all) have some background, as amateurs or pros — they just weren’t usually high-profile fighters.

    One guy who was a pro I worked with (toughman who had some club fights — wouldn’t say I trained him exactly but I worked his corner a few times) and another who was the first amateur I trained both ended up as pro referees. Both did a lot of bouts and the former a few high-profile (but not quite world title) fights, and he’s still going (the other is a cancer survivor and the last few years after that just hasn’t been able to physically do it).

    I’d say in all honesty (but wouldn’t necessarily tell them) that they are both better refs than they were fighters — not that they were bad fighters for their levels, but both have been excellent refs. Better by a far sight than some I see doing title fights on TV.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I don't think I've seen him ref. Good to know he's found a way to stay in the game!
     
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  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 Full Member

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    Liston was ref for Terrell and Williams if I remember properly.
     
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    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Mills Bee Lane
     
  13. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Sadly he was also the ref at Griffith-Paret 3.....hs record before that was very good.

    I feel sorry for him, he never forgave himself after that.
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Pete Rademacher was a referee too.

    He was a good, solid Heaveweight. Who dropped Floyd Patterson in a world title challenge in his first pro fight (wow!)
     
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    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jersey Joe Walcott
     
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