Fighting Off The Ropes?

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A couple days ago I was watching Chucho Castillo-Raul Cruz II (thanks Flea) and was struck at how polished and accomplished Castillo was in fighting off the ropes. Just a brilliant display. Such a tactic takes a lot of confidence really, as having one's back against the ropes could lead the judges to think your opponent has control of the situation and is dictating the action. You better know what you're doing in there and know what payout you're going to get from it, and Castillo evokes this brilliantly here.

    What are some other good examples of this tactic?
     
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    James Toney was a master at this, because it made his defensive skills the big issue in the fight. It's a big part of why he was able to move up in weight so well, I think, because it negated people who tried to just bully him back into the ropes and overpower him.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    Wilfredo Benitez gave a virtuso performance of fighting off the ropes against Carlos Palomino. A clinic in counter-punching.

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    Good for guys..like James Toney...who have great shoulder roll/countering and general defense ability, but not great or fast legs (or who are a bit out of shape) you dont need to move...your opponent will often automatically get in on you...because well..your on the ropes, and thats what he has learned to do. Finally..by staying on that ropes you minimize the ability of the opponent to use angles with his footwork (kind of in keeping with my first point).
     
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    Mayweather does this all the time. So did Galindez. I think Johnny Dundee was the master; you have to have excellent reflexes and be a good counterpuncher to get this to work.

    Has no one really mentioned Ali? Rumble young man rumble?
     
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    Ah! Great mention of Galindez; I should have thought of that......
     
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    Ali's performance against Foreman. Ali's handspeed off the ropes
    was incredible, his diamond chin and ribs on display as well. Its very
    impressive being cornered or against the ropes and dodging and countering.
    Especially a KO shot ala Judah vs Mabuza, Floyd Hattton etc.
     
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    :goodHis performance vs Duran was also virtuouso...
     
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    Victor Galindez was also expert at fighting off the ropes and countering...he could do it all night.
     
  13. The Kurgan

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    He didn't do it for long periods, but he did it frequently and he did it very well: Niccolino Locche. I wouldn't try to immitate the way he did it, though!
     
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    I've heard Barney Ross always remained brilliant and composed when on the ropes.
     
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