Floyd vs. Williams

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  1. Mr. HU

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    such an ignorant post!
     
  2. VIP

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    I'm leaning towards Williams. If you look at the Quitana fight, Williams ended up Koing him the rematch. Martinez had to take some punishment too, and still walked away with a decision loss. Williams can and would outwork Floyd. No doubt Floyd is the better boxer, but the question would be is if Floyd can keep up with him? In my mind, Pacquiao and Williams are the 2 toughest fights for Floyd.
     
  3. Hermit

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    Do you believe the judges would give Williams the fight on activity? Not against Floyd they wouldn't.
     
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    Well, Williams is going to hit him some too...and definitely put a lot of pressure. So it's not like he's going to be punching air all night.

    The Oscar fight at 154 only resulted in a SD for Floyd. Floyd is a much smaller guy at these weights.
     
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    i dont know why people assume work rate will trouble Floyd....yes it is good to try and keep busy but thats not going to beat a seasonal fighter as Floyd....PW is a freak however he is nowhere as crafty and versatile as Floyd.

    Floyd will willingly stand in the pocket with PW who also willingly gices his height and reach up OFTEN. Also...alot of Williams punches are extremely lazy and just flicked out there...these punches will get him in a heap of trouble with Floyd.

    PW although a very solid figher right now just is not seasonal enough and it shows in fights such as Martinez and Quitana.

    Floyd picks him apart to a 12 round UD.
     
  6. pejevan

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    That is the fun of it actually!

    Watch for my upcoming match-up : Floyd versus Wonder woman. I am sure that would be very interesting.
     
  7. Hermit

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    You are wonder woman? :huh
     
  8. NeckBreaknAiken

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    No. You're bringing your opinion, which you're entitled to.


    I just happen to disagree. I think Paul has what it takes to beat Floyd for several reasonss, and Floyd has what it takes to beat Paul for several reasons.


    But one thing you might consider... Floyd hasn't fought anyone who brings all of the challenges Williams woud bring, at the same time. He's fought conditioned fighters. He's fought fighters with high activity. He's fought lefties. He's fought really tall fighters. He's fought fighters with good chins that he couldn't hurt.



    But when has he fought a 6'2", southpaw, who throws a 100 punches a round, who has outstanding endurance, and who has a great chin?
     
  9. HitBattousai

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    Williams wins, though it's never going to happen. Floyd doesn't have the pop to hurt Williams and he'd have to open up a lot more to have a shot at keeping up with him, which I doubt Floyd would do against the Williams onslaught. So most likely Williams just outworks him dramatically while Floyd lands the cleaner stuff, and Williams wins by decision.
     
  10. Marnoff

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    Your post was too excitable to even start with. Read my other posts if you want to see why I think it's absurd. As far as Jim Lampley forgetting more than 99% of the people on ESB ever knew about boxing... why even reply to such nonsense?
     
  11. Marnoff

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    1. The Quintana rematch doesn't tell us anything about how Floyd vs. Williams would go. It ended too quickly to be instructive. All we learned in it is that Williams has the ability to bang Quintana out early. The first fight is the one to look at as far as stylistic measures are concerned.

    2. Martinez also was able to counter the hell out of Williams. Floyd would be able to get the counters in, minus being pummelled due to his superb defensive work.

    3. Which is why he'd win.

    4. Floyd doesn't need to keep up with Williams' punch output. He will be able to match him pace for pace in terms of the actual fight, however, and more.
     
  12. Marnoff

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    Oscar at 154lbs with all of the conditions in his favour, including the gloves Floyd was allowed to wear, was a stiffer fight than Williams will be at 147lbs, not to mention a very different style. Further still, no one who knows how to actually score a boxing match believes that was a legitimate Split Decision. Floyd outboxed Oscar and clearly won the fight.
     
  13. Marnoff

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    Good post. Williams flicks a LOT of his punches because he's so enamoured with volume, and against Floyd he'd be getting countered every time he tossed out a lazy shot.
     
  14. Marnoff

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    1. Williams gives up his height in all of his fights, which is why he routinely gets tagged with hard counters against shorter fighters.

    2. A lot of that is lazy volume, which is why he's shown a propensity to being tagged when he falls in.

    3. Which he'll need to keep him in the fight for twelve rounds. Nothing to knock him on here.

    4. That'll keep him upright for twelve, but do much toward winning him a decision against Floyd.

    You make fair points here, I just think Williams' ability gets overstated because of his physical size, of which he doesn't maximize its potential.
     
  15. P4P

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    not close to as one sided