Gambling with Stovepipe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Stovepipe, Sep 5, 2008.

  1. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was surprised to see that Adamek is considered as a betting favorite.
    I doubt that Adamek can handle Arreollas punching power and size, so 2,16 is good enough odds for me to bet for Arreollas win.

    I think Kesler is past it and his style suits better to Froch than Dirrels running did.
    I see Froch stopping Kesler so 2,35 for froch victory is good enough odds for me.

    So I will bet

    Chris Arreola 2,16 * vs. Tomas Adamek
    Carl Froch 2,35 * vs. Mikkel Kesler
     
  2. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Yep, held off long enough and Adamek's odds dropped to +105.

    So, I got
    Adamek +105
    Froch +150
    Angulo -500
    Beltran Jr. -250

    I'm not expecting to win, but if I do big bucks.
     
  3. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had 20 to win on Kessler I don't know how I missed placing it here but it collected already. Still a slightly losing week over all.

    calculation

    3.33 Win Munroe Wins
    -10.5 Loss Arreolla loses to Adamek
    -5 Loss Julio loses to Angulo
    -5 Loss Kessler does not KO Froch
    13.33 Win Kessler wins
     
  4. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. 3rdIslander

    3rdIslander GURU R.I.P. Full Member

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    ^ Any1 know about this, or has it already been posted earlier in the thread?

    Here are my vCash bets for "Who R U Picking?":

    Floyd Mayweather by Decision 8/13 (0.62)
    Hedged with:
    Shane Mosley by KO TKO 7/1 (7.00)

    If Floyd KOs Shane or if Shane decisions Floyd, my vCash is ****ed. But, how likely is that, right?
     
  6. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well, i think a shane decision is more likely than a shane KO - your not going to KO mayweather and shane mosley has the work rate to win some rounds - in addition he doesn't gas like Oscar so it should be competitive in the late rounds
     
  7. 3rdIslander

    3rdIslander GURU R.I.P. Full Member

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    Keyword: *HEDGE*.

    I'm not saying a Shane KO is more likely than a Shane decision over Mayweather (as the given odds clearly indicate). But thanks for saving the day on that point of detail, Capt. Obvious.

    I'm saying the odds (7/1) make it a more sensible hedge (look it up; it's a type of contrarian play), given the odds of a Mayweather decision win.

    :tired:dead:zzz
     
  8. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    do you think mosley will win by knockout? if you don't, then don't bet on it. my betting is always bet on who i feel will win regardless of the odds (unless they're too pathetic) otherwise all you're doing is going against your boxing knowledge and going just by odds alone. basically you're giving your money away if you know your boxing.
     
  9. 3rdIslander

    3rdIslander GURU R.I.P. Full Member

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    My main bet is on Mayweather by decision.
    I'm not going to explain contrarian hedging to the plethora of simps on ESB.
    :good
     
  10. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You need to grow a brain you moron.

    The way to hedge a bet is to bet on the most likely outcome for Shane. Whats the point of 'hedging' your money on a shane KO when there is no god damn chance of it happening. I am getting 7/1 odds on a Shane decision... i am taking those as my hedge because if Mayweather doesn't win a decision it will be because Mosley has won the decision. are we understanding yet? No? Didn't think so... oh well, waste your life... your reasoning was so stupid its unbelievable
     
  11. 3rdIslander

    3rdIslander GURU R.I.P. Full Member

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    Point the "stupid finger" at yourself. I've already addressed the only 2 outcomes that will give me a net loss.
    Single bet, all-or-nothing-ass simps. :lol:
     
  12. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You see... this kind of reasoning i can understand... the hedge is pointless if you don't even think there is a likely chance of it happening. Means if you lose your primary bet, you will most likely lose your secondary bet as well. I love the way this dude is talking about other people being simple when he is the one wasting anything on a shane KO

    A good technique to betting is to eliminate possibilities... and Shane KO, Mayweather KO can safely be eliminated here leaving Mosley decision as your hedge if you like Mayweather by decision
     
  13. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****inghell. **** all this hedging. boxing is the easiest sport in the world to bet on, it's not ****ing hard if you know how styles makes fights, and not the hype. if i find a fight to hard to predict, then i skip the betting. simple. fights like dirrell against abraham, martinez against pavlik, i go full steam ahead with reasonable money. underdogs that should be favourites in my opinion due to styles and tools, and then i gamble with full confidence in my knowledge.
     
  14. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So why leave an open ended question to the forum you half wit. Your getting dumber by the minute... if its an all or nothing bet, then why hedge it... its clearly not an all or nothing bet is it because then you would bet ALL your money on one outcome
     
  15. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I usually do this... but when i can cover myself with really good odds i tend to hedge