Glorify a fighter

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by teeto, May 30, 2008.


  1. teeto

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    Please give an assessment of any fighter of your choosing. Just break down their fighting style and glorify them in the process if you wish.

    This thread is just for fun so if a fighter is being over-hyped or wrongly glorified a little please dont bite!

    I always do my Duran and Robinson ones because they pop in so many subjects on this forum, so i'll get the ball rolling with a different fighter, Julio Cesar Chavez-



    I believe his best range when he was in full flow and found his rythm was mid-range. Once he got going and he would just tense up his body and plant his feet in front of a fighter (after cutting off the ring with subtle, masterful movement), he would just fire that pin-point straight right to the head (his best punch i believe), and the left downstairs. This would normally be the pattern of the bout until the other guy caved. You could hit him back all you want, but the shots would normally be stopped by either his glove, or a piece of iron he called his chin, either one was just as effective a shield as the other.

    Not a tremendous ko puncher, but one of the strongest men his weight divisions have ever seen, and a heavy-hooker with good enough power to wear down his guys and stop them, even some of the better class opponents. He never really seemed to let his punches fly in bunches too often, it was more THUD, THUD, THUD, one at a time. Although i do believe he exhibited some good combination work, especially to the body, in a losing effort (and it WAS) to Pernell Whitaker, a fight he should have lost by a land-slide, but was still competitive throughout in, and contested almost every round to make his master work. His boxing skills may be slightly underrated, he did display some good movement at times, and a good jab, but his best performances were the typical Julio, standing right there, finding his range and hammering away with a quality offence that rendered men helpless.





    See what i mean, just totally glorified Chavez!!! Anyway, i'd like to see some classic posters do a bit of this, just for fun!!
     
  2. Holmes' Jab

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    Pea is just so slick it's sick. :p
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    :blood

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  4. teeto

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    Hahaha
     
  5. Holmes' Jab

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    In all seriousness, though good original post mate. Chavez was a fine fighter just not one of my fave boxers 'personality' wise. Plus Whitaker is amongst my top 5 faves.
     
  6. teeto

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    Thanks, both were great you're certainly right, elites imo. Especially Sweet Pea. Im not too much of a Chavez fan personally either, just thinking about him and his style earlier and got the urge to write up on him!
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    I happen to think that a very forgotten and underrated fighter is Simon Brown. Though he did not retire with the prettiest of records, he was certainly a great force to be reckoned with. I grew up enjoying most of his best moments in the 80's and early 90's. At one point, he may very well have been the best welterweight of the lot. I'll never forget the time he rose up in weight to utterly destroy Terry Norris. The media was hyping Terry as pound for pound one of the best in the world, and Simon handed him a very bad loss. Brown possesed ferocious power for a smaller fighter, and a good chin and speed to compliment it.
     
  8. teeto

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    You're right there, he's very forgotten seemingly, hardly ever gets brought up here. The Norris win was upset of the year i think.
     
  9. PhillyPhan69

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    El Tigre Colonense...Beautiful footwork, brilliant jab, super fluid boxer who looks as natural in a ring as BB King with a guitar. Panamanian featherweight champ from 62-63 won World LW championship from carlos Ortiz in 65'...lost it back to him months later. Regained the LW championship in 1970 and would lose to Highland silk in a controversial SD (I scored it the other way)...but silk would go on to control the rematch a year later. Again a very skilled boxer, fast with a good jab, not the greatest power but defended himself well. He defeated such men as Carlos Ortiz, Lloyd marshall, Antonio Harrera, Carlos Hernandez, Rafiu King, Erubey "Chango" Carmona, Armando "Mando" Ramos, "Guts" Ishmatsu (Suzuki), Euginio Espinoza, Angel Robinson garcia, Jaun ramirez, Auburn Copeland, and Frankie Narvaez.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I think I'll also ad that the whole crue of welterweights during that period were forgotten greats. Marlon Starling, Maurice Blocker, Mark Breland, Glenwood Brown and James McGirt were all extremely talented fighters who rarely get mentioned on chat forums or even during the commentary of boxing broadcasts today. This was a sadly lost generation of quality welterweights and frankly I'm not sure why. The welter picture of the 1980's was probably the best thing that boxing had going on during the decade, when you consider that it began with the like of Leonard, Duran and Hearns, then continued through Curry, Honeyghan, Starling, Brown, Mcgirt, Blocker, Breland, Davis and a few others. Can we honestly say that any other division was more talent packed at anytime during the 80's?
     
  11. prime

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    A legend must have a firm foundation of fundamentals. And the voice of the people is sometimes akin to the voice of God.

    Before media-contrived freak shows and boxing gloves coming into association with a million dollars, Jack Dempsey rose up and became a mainstream legend, and rightfully so.

    In those dark days before 24/7 worldwide personal electronic entertainment,
    most Americans knew of the exploits of the strong ring gladiator by the name of Jack Dempsey, though probably not much about just why he was great.

    The grainy photo or newsreel was enough to convey the magic fighter's charisma of this giant-killing ferocity of the ring, who for good measure had the knack for the perfect quip.

    True legends are grounded in reality. To the uninitiated, Dempsey was simply an unbridled force of nature. To connoisseurs, he was greatness incarnate and the template for future stars 60 years after his best fight.

    Perfectly proportioned, wearing that cropped hair, scowl and sockless shoes, he went straight to his work with measured intensity translated into a smooth bob and weave that suddenly exploded into two-fisted mayhem from all angles and directions. He was a true master of the Sweet Science, the rare combination of raw power and polished technique.

    You can't keep a good man down and true greatness cannot be denied. I see Jack Dempsey's name continuing to rise to the top as the decades continue to roll by.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a god in boxing trunks. Watching the smoothness of his moves is like listening to vintage Miles Davis. He moves with the grace of Pierina Legnani.

    Undefeated, top 5 p4p fighter, never-been-down before Diego Corrales was shut down and shut out and dropped 5 times. I wonder if this type of beating and humiliation made his future prison sentence easier. Undefeated top 10 p4p fighter Ricky Hatton, who probably outweighed Mayweather on fight night, ran face first into a left hook as beautiful as the magical one Ray Robinson landed on Gene Fullmer. Then he ran into the ring post as a result of it.

    Genaro Hernandez's only loss was at a higher weight class. He stepped in with the mighty Mayweather, all two years and 17 fights of pro experience, and was dominated in 8 rounds before surrendering.

    Trying to catch Mayweather with a clean shot is like trying to hit a half-court shot with Tim Duncan's hand in your face. He rolls like Cheech and Chong. He slips like Bob Dole off the podium. Punches slide off him like Rickey Henderson on the basepath. The much larger Oscar De La Hoya, with 6 years experience at junior middleweight and a substantial size advantage, missed repeatedly against Mayweather.

    When you try to rough Mayweather up with fouls, he is adept at fouling back with effectiveness. Hatton is still crying about the fouls and the ref from his beatdown.

    Let's just take the words of two men: the longest reigning middleweight champion of all-time, and a "Sugary" champion regarded as the best of the 80s.

    "The best fighter of our era -- my era -- is Pretty Boy Floyd," Hopkins said. "There's no doubt."

    Sugar Ray Leonard, one of the best fighters to ever step foot in a boxing ring, also told the paper Mayweather is the best of his time. Mayweather is often compared to Leonard.

    "He's an amazing fighter," Leonard said. "Very economical. It's all about the eyes. He's one of the few fighters I've ever seen, like Muhammad Ali, he watches every move his opponent makes, and capitalizes on those mistakes. That's a gift. You can't teach that. Floyd's number one this era. He's proved that, against Oscar, now against Ricky Hatton. He's fought the best fighters of his era, so that puts him up there. There's a few more fights left in Floyd, and bigger and better things to come."
     
  13. teeto

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    Thanks to Mr. Magoo, Phillyphan ( i like how you never mentioned Laguna's name!, great post), Prime, Wealthy Elite, and Thread Stealer.

    All great posts! This thread is looking good!!
     
  14. salsanchezfan

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    .................This fighter brought glory to many other fighters. He always showed up to the arena for his fights, and were it not for the comparative talents of others, would definitely have been the greatest of all time.



    Carlton Sparrow, legend...........
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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    Brown was a pretty fun fighter to watch. His fights with Trice were entertaining, especially the first one.

    His beating of Vaca was just sick. What was Rudy Battle waiting for?