Golovkin tribute thread

Golovkin belongs at the lower end of the p4p list at best, I don't have a problem with that but anything higher like the Ring has him is foolishness and this is coming from someone who's actually a massive GGG fan...

 

Ring Magazine Annual Ratings 1999. Pound For Pound Number 9 Bernard Hopkins.
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1999

 

If he's low on the list then name everyone who goes above him, and justify each please.

 

You know who are above him and the only justification needed is that they have better wins, there's no point going one by one.

You could always make the case that "GGG looks to have better skills" and that's fair enough but you don't know until he proves them against the best, how many times have fighters looked good against C-B level opposition and then can't repeat the same feats against elite fighters? Too many to count.

 

He scr.aped in just as the 90's. were coming to an end. He never made the top 10 any other year.
Hop was a p4p fighter in the 00's . Not the 90's

 

Hop had to beat Trinidad to get high up on the list. Trinidad who had been ranked in the p4p top 10 for years.

What highly ranked pound 4 pounder has Glovkin beaten?

 

Well, let's just look at who else is in the top ten with Golovkin according to The Ring.

1.Mayweather, recent wins against Pacquiao and Alvarez. No problem there.

2.Roman Gonzalez, recent win against Estrada, although with Yaegashi getting knocked out he's starting to look damaged like Geale. And I'm not sure that the Sosa win is better than Murray. Got to respect his decent streak of title defenses though.

3.Klitschko, recent win over Povetkin, plus a long streak of decent defenses. In the last five years he's got Peter, Thompson, and Haye which are solid if not amazing.

4. Golovkin, recent victories over Murray, Geale, Stevens, Macklin with a decent string of defenses. Nothing stand out.

5.Guillermo Rigondeaux, I can see placing him above Gennady for the Donaire win alone, but he doesn't have much else besides that and a string of defenses.

6.Manny Pacquiao, last five years he's got Bradley, Marquez, Mosley, Margarito, but he's lost a couple of times too. Golovkin hasn't lost. I could see placing him above Gennady.

7.Sergey Kovalev, Pascal and Hopkins, he should probably be ranked above Gennady.

8.Terence Crawford, has wins over Gamboa who was way too small, Beltran, and Burns which are no better than anything on Golovkin's record. Doesn't even have his string of title defenses. Can't justify placing him above Gennady.

9.Shinsuke Yamanaka, he's got Vic Darchinyan and nobody else I've ever heard of, plus a good string of defenses. Below Golovkin.

10.Takashi Uchiyama, he's got an impressive number of title defenses but I don't recognize any names on his CV. Ranked below GGG.

Based on the rest of these guy's records I can't see placing Golovkin lower than 6 or possibly 7 on the pound for pound list.

 

Bradley should be somewhere in the top 10.

ggg's spot was bought by k2

 

How could he be over Kovalev. Ooohhhhhh

 

Hopkins managed to be on the low end of the top 10 for 2 years before fighting Trinidad, which made him #2. But have you considered that Golovkin is so high because nobody else has done anything of note lately either? That's why I asked, who would you place above him based on good name victories? Who else is beating top 10 guys?

 

I'd put Alvarez, Stevenson, Uchiyama above GGG + the ones you mentioned (Rigo, Wlad, Floyd, Kovalev, Gonzalez, Pacman).

 

Yeah, Golovkin is so high up because the landscape is a lot weaker than what it was back then.

Thurman, Canelo, Lara all have a case for top 10

 

Thurman? Why, because he beat Guerrero? Thurman doesn't have a better record than GGG.

I wouldn't put Alvarez over GGG either what with him losing to Mayweather and getting that robbery over Lara. Lara on the other hand should have Alvarez and Williams on his record which are better than anything GGG has got, so definitely put him up there.

 

Explain Stevenson and Uchiyama to me then.

 

Where would you put Golovkin if he fought and beat the winner of DeGale-Groves II?