Groves Gameplan

It was to counteract george gassing because they knew as everybody does that carl comes on stronger in the latter part of the fight. Were trying to conserve energy to not only deal with it but to meet it and push carl back in the latter half...thats my take on it anyway. What they didn't bank on is if carl is relatively fresh...he would be even harder to push back. I say it was a masterplan...that carl counteracted because they misjudged how dangerous froch is without taking steam out of him. Going in it was'nt actually a bad game plan. The right hand put it to bed, and if it didn't i think froch would have anyway. But at 36 you would have thought george would have been the fresher man of the two...with what they'd taking up to the eigth round, but carl's no normal 36 year old tbh. If you dont shut him down and back him up he's always going to be very dangerous. Their best shot would have been the exact same gameplan as the first fight...but to be honest carl was prepared for it anyway on the night.

Anyone catch what paddy said to george after i think it was the sixth round...maybe the seventh....he told george not yet i think?? Was it to back him up??

 

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I had Groves up and he was boxing nicely, getting the better of the exchanges on the whole in a nip and tuck affair. I'd say apart from 'don't get knocked out' he was boxing to orders.

Jim Watt is a nutcase, from the second the bell rang he had already decided that Froch was going to win and didn't seem to bother what was unfolding in the ring, just shouted out the commentary to the fight he imagined was probably happening.

Cracking shot to end the fight.

 

Dunno but it was a dramatic turnaround. Based on his commentary last time around you would expect him to be favouring Groves until Froch won him over.

 

Do you think Eddie/ Sky had a word with him about his dicksucking Groves commentary in the 1st fight ??

Yes i think their all encouraged to big up the matchroom stable.

It puts me off...

To be fair to eddie...the truth doesn't always sell. All people ask for is fairness or the truth...that jim didn't give the second fight. Mind you we didn't get it the first fight either. But the difference was i think the second time he was influenced...the first he got carried away.

He at least watched the first fight develop before he gave his analysis...the second fight he knew the basis of his analysis before going in. Either influenced...or trying to make amends for poor commentary the first fight.

I think eddie should stop using pundits/other fighters etc to promote his fighters...he can do a good enough job of it himself.

 

Thought Groves had won 6 and 7 and was winning eight. Seemed like he was turning the fight around. But we all know he gasses, and I don't believe he would have been caught by that haymaker if he wasn't already knackered. Rounds 10 and 11 would have got nasty for Groves in my opinion.

 

I think it was less about waiting for the second half of the fight and more about waiting for Froch to commit/over commit.

If Froch had over commited in say the second or third round I think George would have gone for it.

I think their gameplan was be patient, pick off the majority of rounds and wait for Froch to commit. To be fair IMO it was working untill Carl caught him with a pearler.

Froch for his part did well in keeping his discipline and not over commiting, and obviously by landing the money shot.

 

Whatever game plan Groves had he didn't stick too it as he wasn't doing the same things with any regularity often enough to look like it was a plan. Didn't seem to know whether to stick or twist.

 

Froch's bodywork was landing clean in the exchanges, no way groves could've gone twelve.

 

Really ?

So Groves had won every round until he got KO'd ?

 

Easy for me to say behind a keyboard but I think Groves should have gone balls to the floor and tried to blast him out. Banking on his hand speed and extra power

I was watching the fight and my friend asked me for my take on it. This was in round 7. I said Groves is winnign but that Froch will win. There was an impending sense of doom about it all.

 

It had nothing to do with staying composed, the plan was flawed from the outset. Because of the plan Froch was able to bully Groves in rounds 5 onwards. Froch knows he's going to drop points to fight the way he fights but regardless of who was scoring more points there was only one fighter getting consistently hurt and it was Groves. He traded losing stamina through high work rate for losing stamina through higher punishment. No net gain. He was always going to lose on a points victory strategy.

 

Wrong gameplan. My prediction of groves inside 7 was based on the first fight with groves taking centre ring feinting and letting his hands go. Groves was negative and cagey from the start...

 

Groves ahead 5-2? You could argue that either man were 2 rounds up, depends of what you like. But Groves even though George had momentum, i still think he would lacked the energy in the championship rounds, due to the body shots by Froch.