Harold Johnson: Amazing Technician

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Have you ever seen better technique than what this guy produces? I don't think he does one thing that is not strictly by the book. What a proffesor. What an amazingly timed right hand knockout punch. They don't get any better than that! WoW! :shock::shock:




    - Such a shame Harold never got HW matches with Marciano, Patterson, or Liston, or Ali
     
  2. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That KO was magnificent.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Yes it was. Harold is easily a top 10 ATG. He backs it up both in resume, longevity, and his skills on film.

    People underestimate his entrance into the heavyweight picture. At 5'10 175lb and lacking a big punch, he was giving up considerable size to the men in the division. However, His Technique, Skill, Defense, Handspeed, Jab were so good he was able to overcome his limitations in the division and had a succesful campaign.


    Defeated aging but good names Arturo Godoy and still dangerous Jimmy Bivins early in his career. Knocked out in 3 by Jersey Joe Walcott, but this became a learning experience for Harold after getting outclassed. Beat Archie Moore in a over the weight match when Moore was a top heavyweight contender himself. Beat Top Ranked puncher Clarence Henry as a stern underdog, then shut out future # 1 contender 6'3 210lb Nino Valdez on the cards 10 rounds to 0!! He also knocked out Heavyweight Puncher Bob Satterfield in 2 rounds. He was scheduled to take on a Young Sonny Liston in 1954, but a late injury pulled johnson out at that last minute. He took some time off after his loss to Archie for the light-Heavyweight title, then went back into the heavyweight mix at an aging 33 to score a magnificent upset win over top rated contender Eddie Machen. Johnson challenged Team Patterson, but Damato wanted nothing to do with it.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What # do you have him at LHW Suze? (Too lazy to check).

    I do really rate him. Wish there was more readily available film on him.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i like this guy, very solid technician. One of the best jabs for a LHW aswell.

    In fact his fight with Pastrano is one of my favrouites of all time.

    I have about 4 or 5 DVDs of him
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Johnson was well past his prime by the time of the pastrano fight. Still, I thought Johnson was robbed in this one and Johnson deserved the decision. If you want to see a masterclass boxing performance, watch Doug Jones vs Harold Johnson
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i got Jones vs Johnson as well ill give it a watch as i havent seen it yet.

    Definitly Johnson was past prime but it was 2 masters doing there own defensive/counterpunching style on each other, one of the best tactical fights ever.

    I thought Pastrano won it by a round with it coming to the last round
     
  8. Muchmoore

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    How do you see Johnson doing with a pre 1958 Liston, Suzie?
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    A beautiful boxer for sure. High guard, fast hands, light on his feet. The epitome of an aesthetically pleasing boxer, in my opinion.

    That knockout is literally one of the best i've ever seen. Never seen it before, thanks.:good Pity there is so little film of the man. I kind of regret not having him in my top10 for Rumsfeld's poll.
     
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    What a shot! I think he took out his mother his Uncle Harry and a few of his unsuspecting descendants with that shot. True beauty. Thanks Suze. :good
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    Pastrano was just as far past his prime as Johnson was in their bout. I think he'd have always troubled him greatly.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You and me both GPater...it's a ***** that the Pastrano-Johnson fight (all 15 rounds) has been removed for some reason from YouTube.
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I LOVED that fight...Pastrano-Johnson..lke others go for Hagler-Hearns or Ali-Frazier 3..a scientific technician/strategists delight..for purists, to be sure.
     
  14. red cobra

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    Pastrano was so cool..a refreshingly honest guy, who in that great Peter Heller book of boxing interviews "In This Corner" said "man, I just got lucky, that's all" in talking of his title winning bout with Johnson..
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Red cobra you was teh one who got me into Johnson vs Pastrano