Heavyweight head-to-heads

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    In their primes, who would you favor over these fighters (individually) on a head-to-head basis?

    1) Ali
    2) Frazier
    3) Young George Foreman
    4) Holmes
    5) Tyson
    6) Holyfield
    7) Bowe
    8 ) Lennox Lewis
    9) Wladimir K.
    10) Vitali K.
     
  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Head to head rankings:

    1. Lewis
    2. V. Klitschko
    3. W. Klitschko
    4. Ali
    5. Holmes
    6. Bowe
    7. Holyfield
    8. Tyson
    9. Foreman
    10. Frazier
     
  3. uncletermite

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    1/ V.Klitchko
    2/ M.Tyson
    3/ L.Lewis
    4/ W.klitchko
    5/ Holmes
    6/ R.Bowe
    7/ Ali
    8/ Holyfield
    9/ Foreman
    10/ Frazier

    If Wlad continues and exceeds Louis's defense arguably I will put him up on the list.This is my personal list in what im assuming you are asking prime head to head in rank if they fought each other at their best.
     
  4. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Good idea. I don't think theres uniformity in a straight up ranking of h2h. For instance, I personally think Vitali is probably the h2h best all time. But Lennox beat him, and both Lennox and Wlad have styles that could pose problems with Vitali's style. Either could possibly beat him 50% of the time. That obviously works in reverse, too. It would make too exhaustive a list for me to actually want to work on though
     
  5. uncletermite

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    Vitalis best opponent was L.Donald prior to lewis also factors such as notice of fight and I had only lewis winning one round,in that fight,one also can make the argument that Lewis was a bit older but then I can point out his k.o losses to lesser fighters and such.For this reason I do have V.Klitchko over lewis.
     
  6. janitor

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    1) Ali - nobody with any degree of confidence.
    2) Frazier - George Foreman
    3) Young George Foreman - Joe Louis
    4) Holmes - Mike Tyson
    5) Tyson - Sonny Liston
    6) Holyfield - Joe Frazier
    7) Bowe - Lennox Lewis
    8 ) Lennox Lewis - Joe Louis
    9) Wladimir K - Lennox Lewis
    10) Vitali K - Lennox Lewis
     
  7. uncletermite

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    I can see the obvious match ups for me..some would be...

    Tyson over Ali..and this one imop is a nightmare for Ali..Didn't like aggressive fighter,left hooks and now he is matched in speed with a guy who loved to slip and counterpunch jabbers.Tyson simply under Rooney or Cus is a mismatch as I see it.Assuming Tyson is going in for the kill its almost a certain k.o win for him in within 4 rounds.


    Bowe over Foreman..Foreman is now the small guy here and cant push or bully..Bowe is a 6'5 230 monster who can out jab and out fight him on the inside,Bowe the slick puncher vs the smaller sloppy ,bad stamina Foreman this is easy pickings for Bowe,who would lose only if he gets arrogant and caught with one of those overhand foreman rights.


    Holyfield over Frazier....Frazier used to being the fast paced fighter and out hussle his oppontes by volume simply is outclassed here with speed/power and chin both equal heart but that only gets you so far,Holyfield out pressures the pressurer.


    Lewis over Holmes ..its as simple as this the bigger stronger jabber vs the lighter hitting one.lewis is just to physically big for Holmes in any direction here.


    I left out klitchkos because I cant honestly put anyone on that list that I see is a mismatch against them,even if they fought each other...I can use other matches but they are not included....I would pick either klitchko over Ali or Holmes for the same reason of lewis.