Herol Graham

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  1. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    " Bomber " Graham was on TV last night talking about his depression. He surprised me with how old he looked although his heyday was a while back, seems like yesterday i watched him getting sparked by Jackson.
    He was very open about his battle with depression, to the point of showing his slashed wrist.
    He was kind of forgotten about in the era of Benn, Eubank and Watson. How do you feel he matched up with those 3. Would he have beaten all 3, or none at MW?
    He had some skills did Herol, still hard to believe he never won a belt.And harder still to see british boxing didnt find a place for him after retiring.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8_AJCLp2w[/ame]
     
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    Hi mate what programme was it, do you know if it's on catch up? It's sad he's suffering from depression, it seems only a few years ago he was doing a charity skipathon, skipping none stop for 24hours or something, a good while after retirement. I think he did allot of boxercise stuff. What was the story behind his depression?

    As for your Q I think he beats all 3 of Eubank, Benn and Watson, The Bomber was very special, far better than allot of the so called greats discussed on this forum
     
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    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was on a show about life after sport on BBC 1 ,Matthew Vaugham presented it. Try the BBC website.George Foreman was on it too.He just said he was lost after he retired but think he had problems dealing with fame in general, adulation followed by seclusion. He credited his wife for saving his life.

    He's on the up now but looks haggard really.
     
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    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks, found it now

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01hllwk/Sporting_Heroes_After_the_Final_Whistle/

    Herol is 52 now for the record
     
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    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    52 bloody hell that makes me feel old. He was proper youthful looking back in the day wasnt he. I suppose he looks about right for 52.It was a good watch although Vaughans presenting style wasnt great.
     
  6. Webbiano

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    It was Michael Vaughan buddy. Watched it purely because I heard big George was in it, just a shame it was right at the end of the programme. On the whole though it was a pretty decent and fairly entertaining.
     
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    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: **** yeah Michael Vaughan, it was Matthew Hoggard wasnt it. Not the biggest cricket fan as you may tell
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The end of his (first) career and his comeback did clash with this era, but I would say his peak years were 84-88, whilst Benn et al, only really started to get going the late 80s. Bomber Graham was from the era before, IMHO.

    But to answer your question I would take Graham over all three at 160 and over Watson at 168.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    True, Graham was really a Hagler era 154\160'lber who just didn't have the backing to get the high profile fights until later.ingle was trying to promote himself until Eastwood took over circa 86 wasn't he?.

    Lindell Holmes, Kalambay, Chong-pal park were in the same boat.
     
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    I just had a flashback of Graham throwing Seys(?) over his shoulder
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And McCallum and Joseph and... I think you get my point!

    It cost him a draw against McCallum, but it was a cool, skillful, funny, all be it very dangerous, move.
     
  12. fists of fury

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    You're not alone...

    I think Graham's style prevented him from getting really big money fights. He could make you look bad.
     
  13. johnmaff36

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    Classic example of a 'who needs him' guy
     
  14. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very true,johnmaff.


    When it came to skills,Graham was Britain's best ever middleweight,imo. What a shame that he never reached his full potential. A psychological factor,for sure.
     
  15. ron u.k.

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    I don't think he beats Benn or Watson but I think he'd have beaten Eubank. I don't think Eubank was busy enough to beat the Bomber.