Hopkins, Hagler, and Monzon

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    How do they rank on an all time middleweight list?
    And how would you rank these 3 in order?
     
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    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Monzon, Hagler, then Hopkins for me.
     
  3. Meast

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    Probably same for me, Monzon/Hagler are very close though and Hopkins isn't that far behind!
     
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    seems like for me they need to be ranked very closely
     
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    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It occurred to me just now that all three have been criticized here and elsewhere to some degree for their biggest fights being against smaller men coming up. The respective smaller opponents Monzon and Hagler faced were far more accomplished of course at 160.

    That, and Hopkins' list of opponents at 160 isn't too great on the whole.

    Hagler seemed the most dominant of the three, Monzon had better longevity and consistency, and Hopkins gets left behind based on the edge the other two hold in those departments.
     
  6. D.T

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    1. Hagler
    2. Monzon
    3. Hopkins
     
  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    How about Head to head?
     
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    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Monzon
    Hagler
    Bhop

    Monzon Hagler are very close.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Monzon beats either. Close, competitve fights of course, but he takes both.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Monzon
    Hagler
    Hopkins
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Head to head Monzon beats both Hag and Hop..both by 15 round decisions.
     
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    Monzon
    Hagler
    Hopkins
     
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    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon, Hagler
    Hopkins
     
  14. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everything Sal said.
     
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    Hagler is the best fighter of them ultimately imo. Hopkins is the best technician for what it's worth imo though, Hagler's a fine technician though, and the most formidable in-fighter. Monzon isn't good technically for me, but he's got one of the greatest ring presences of all time, has fantastic timing and is a great ring general.

    I don't think Hopkins can bea Hagler at all.
    I think Hopkins has a good chance of beating Monzon.
    Monzon-Hagler is the most interesting fight for me, Monzon dominates the ring so well, Hagler would do well to offer movement and box at a high tempo, a la his Bennie Briscoe performance. If Hagler will fight though, and he has the abilit/speed to get off first and more often, but Monzon saps the energy of come forward men so well over the long haul with his battering ram body ahots. It's these reasons that even though i seriously don't rate Monzon technically, i rate him in terms of effectiveness and i see him as effective at all ranges. I think Monzon has a good chance of beating Hagler, but Hagler is the only one who has a good chance of winning against both of his opponents here.