Hypnotization In Boxing

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Mandanda, Feb 25, 2010.


  1. johna_83

    johna_83 31/10/2010 Full Member

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    :lol:

    I remember Merson saying she'd helped him with his demons, and Anderton was a regular visitor. Didn't do anything for Robbie Fowler tho, he said he visited her house to see what all the fuss was about and ended up watching telly with her husband the whole time :lol:
     
  2. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ledge...I don't understand...:think

    I think that it is important to have somebody that is independant and impartial to be there for the players, I am not convinced it has to be of a religious denomination of anykind...:huh
     
  3. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    no sex, watching only boxing, continous all month fitness, cut back on all comfort food, pictures of your opponant around the gym, roadworking......when you think of nothing but boxing,making weight and your opponant in a heavy training camp with 20 or so other sparring partners,trainers,pro/am boxers around you with a similar mentality, in a gym that is surrounded by pictures,posters and photo's of former greats and former elite fighters.

    by the time you get into the ring you should have NO need for hypnotization becuase you are doing it everyday in the gym. haglers training regime i think was a good example of just going to a different place (mentaly).his quote "if you cut open my head all you will find is a boxing glove" or somthing like that means it all

    also benn was clearly tired after the fight, unlike eubank who i think stopped an interview mid way becuase he was too hurt. he had a completly different mentality to nigel who wanted to show how man he was. his fight with sherry,and his war with wharton (a fight in which he was pissing blood for a long while) he had a very similar way of showing his ego.

    he did pull off a marvelous upset which if not for what was to follow would be relished by brit fans.
     
  4. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    are you joking or you serious? ledge = legend
     
  5. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mandanda = P4P ESB Brit Forum's Best Thread Starer:deal.

    TBH, when I first voted I was thinking about hypnotization's effect from a technical standpoint. IMO, no matter how much somebody tells you you can do something and best someone else, it doesn't carry much weight in a sport such as boxing where you are trying to outsmart someone with a set of skills that you'll inevitably have to use and rely on in order to fight an effective fight. Put simply, you can't make someone Whitaker 'mark II' by telling them that they are, IMO- I could never see that happening!

    That said, I have never seen that interview - I'll dig it out from my Benn career set later as this has genuinely interested me - and that is an extremely scary thing to hear coming from a boxer's mouth especially considering that it was said immediately after a fight. Someone could potentially be killed/kill someone else as a result of subconsciously thinking in a way somebody else has told them to. I've changed my mind, this method is potentially fatal.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    There's no controversy, because hypnosis is not an unfair advantage. It is not an induced state. It's 100% a trick of the mind. You can not actually be hypnotized (there's no such thing), you can only convince yourself that you've been.

    Seriously, guys? :lol:

    Are we going to next have a thread on whether selling your soul to Satan to increase your chances of winning should be allowed?
     
  7. johna_83

    johna_83 31/10/2010 Full Member

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  8. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    It was funny what Parlour said :good
     
  9. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nigel used McKenna to get over his divorce to help him focus on his training. He did not and it cannot be used to go crashing through the pain barrier etc etc. Collins against Eubank is different again, firstly i spoke to steve about it at length and it was BS he was not hypnotised, it was all about convincing Chris he would take unbelievable punishment and keep coming regardless of the consequences. I personally think that was low bearing in mind how affected Chris was by the Watson fight.
     
  10. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    I just wanted to see people's thoughts on it that's all. A lot have gone for no big deal and some feel it is unfair. I'm 50/50 but there's been some great posts that have shown reasons for and against.
     
  11. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Cheers Losfer glad yourself and lads appreciate the threads :happy

    I'm like you at first i thought nothing of it but when you look into it...i kinda get worried about fighters pushing themselves to far but then there's been some educated posts on this thread that ease my mind...i'm still uncertain of what to think.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    That's commendable that you want to foster a fair and balanced dialogue that tolerates all viewpoints, but to me it just seems about on par with respecting the viewpoint of Illuminati conspiracy theorists and poltergeists "witnesses".

    I just can't understand an adult in this day and age thinking there's anything more to hypnosis than the subjects psyching themselves out (and therefore nothing they can't consciously snap themselves out of). To suggest that there is any external influence is a fairy tale that I thought had long since been put to bed.
     
  13. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is a very pertinent saying 'whether you think you can or you can't, you are usually right'.

    That explains hypnosis to me.
     
  14. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Whatever you think doesn't really bother me tbh as it seems you just want to make fun of the thread. The guys who have posted have posted about the questions posed and gave me straight forward answers to questions. I've not said anything about Hypnosis other then pose the question and comment back to peoples posts. I started the thread as i saw Benn's interview which Icemax mentions and also Eubank's fear of fighting someone who was taking sessions. I understand and appreciate both answers for and against and thank everybody for there time in posting even if they think it's silly.