Hypothetical situation...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It makes him pretty poor at boxing. Sven Ottke would out-box Pavlik no problem.
     
  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'd have to reply with a possibly definite maybe.

    In reality, though, no. Taylor holds complete lineage of a more respected division, and Ottke did not.
     
  3. KhanB

    KhanB Active Member Full Member

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    I think it would only help the image of Hbo boxing turn into a joke. It would be funny to me a dark way because JT is a Hbo olympic hype job. They stole my boy's belt away and gave it to the polite milk dud but they didnt know he would suck this bad.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    A better questions is, can Taylor legitimately win a close decision w/o you and Zakman calling robbery? :think
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    If he deserves it in a close fight. Fights can be close but clear, so if it is clear, then yes.
     
  6. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    And if he clearly outclasses Pavlik on his way to a easy UD. Will you then call Pavlik a hypejob and continue to hate Taylor, or will you give him the respect that he ALREADY DESERVES???
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Taylor has gotten NO gift decisions.

    His fights with Bernard and Winky were close. I thought he narrowly won all three but he went 2-0-1. I would not have complained if all three had been judged narrow defeats for Jermain but in no way do they rank as robberies. A robbery occurs when the CLEAR winner is judged as losing. That was not the case here. All three fights were close and I believe the decisions were good.

    I am 90 % sure that Jermain will UD Kelly and I believe there's a 50 % chance he will KO him. He will be motivated because of recent criticism.

    Will a victory over Pavlik silence his critics?

    Maybe, but probably not.
     
  8. pioterbezkitu

    pioterbezkitu Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    No, there will never be something as bad as Sven Ottke.. Oh, maybe a nice chick with a ***** is worse..
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prime Sven Ottke would have a very good chance of going at least 2-0-1 with the same fighters.
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ottke was an extremely good boxer, only a yank (or Americanised European) would totally rule out the possiblity of Sven being capable of beating American Antiquity.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has zero chance against prime Hopkins. We are all aware of that, but the Hopkins Taylor beat is an entirely different proposition. That Hopkins managed to lose rounds to an old Howard Eastman.
     
  12. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe, Dawson, Kessler, prime Ottke would all have shut out that Tarver.
     
  13. pioterbezkitu

    pioterbezkitu Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    That Tarver was almost beaten by Elvin Murqi
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has an extremely good chance.

    Hopkins will lose to the first decent LHW he faces, just like he lost to the first decent middleweight he had faced in years.
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe would humiliate Hopkins now. I hope the fight happens (I wouldn't usually wish harm on an old man), if only for the enlightenment of you and America.

    It would actually be a shock to you to see Calzaghe easily dismantle Hopkins.