Ismael Laguna- Discussion

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    whts your view on this guy
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Troubling style. Organised and quick.

    But he's no Ken Buchanan;)

    No matter WHAT Sweet Scientist tries to tell you!
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    interesting how do you rate him overrall i have next to Ken in the top 20-25 range just abit below ken

    what do you make of his style do you like it? whats his best assets?
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't have a detailed lightweight list, but I really, really rate Buchanan. Laguna, not quite so much.

    I do like his style, yes. I'd say his best attributes were his jab, which was fast, accurate and never sold, and he was always, always on balance. Pretty impressive when you consider how mobile he was, there's a real sense of perpetual motion about him.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i really rate buchanan aswell but i also rate laguna

    his styles brillaint always moving never off balance as you say but whta i like better than his jab is his lead right he never missses it hes always perfectly balanced to through it and its solid
     
  6. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I don't think he should be much lower than Buchanan. Lower, yes, but not by much of a distance imo. I don't have anything like a top 20 at 135, but I'm struggling to think of 20 others I would put over him at the moment.

    As McGrain says, his jab, speed, and footwork were his best assests.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    what do yous think of his fights with ortiz
     
  8. the cobra

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    At school now so it's nothing detailed, I'd have to watch them again to give any in-depth views on the fights anyway

    Comfortable win for Laguna in the first, I think had it a bit wider than most for my score. ortiz had him figured out better for the other fights and didnt subject himself to fighting laguna's fight.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    I prefer Laguna to Buchanan any day of the week, though I like both.
     
  10. My2Sense

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    Laguna was a very talented, troubling fighter, but tended to come off second best against the very top echelon of fighters. He has a legit win over Carlos Ortiz, which is probably his defining moment, but was beaten in both return bouts, and also lost to Saldivar (very decisively) and Elorde. Outside of Ortiz, his best win was over the red hot prospect Mando Ramos, who he probably ruined. After that he lost two more times to Buchanan, though to be fair, he was past his peak by then, and gave him very close, hard fights each time.

    Off the top of my head, I believe his record was 1-6 against fellow HOFers.
     
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    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be fair that says more about the talent around at the time than Laguna being a knotch below the best kind of fighter.You can say that for a lot of fighters from this period though.

    I think Laguna had as much ability as Rodriguez, who he was very similar in style to at times.

    I liked Laguna's performance against Suzuki btw.Guts wasn't great but he had a way of beating excellent fighters if they weren't 100% and Laguna just totally outclassed him.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    why
     
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    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ive always been a big fan of those athletically gifted, defensively brilliant Panamanians.

    Laguna, Pedroza, Brown, And more recently Ive got to have a look at more of Marcel.

    I make no secret of my admiration for Duran, my fav fighter, though he isnt like these guys you can see some of that defensive style.

    Ismael is a fighter I highly regard, in my favorite alltime division...I dont know if I like him more then Kenny but he is a fighter I put at that level quite easily..I would probably prefer watching Ismael if pushed to make a distinction.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Buchanan makes my top 10 LW's. At no.8/9 if I remember correctly.

    Laguna definitely makes the top 20, very good boxer/stylist.
     
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    I thought he was Puerto Rican? You learn somethin new every day