Jeffries v Frazier !

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, May 31, 2009.


  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Correct. The work out / sparring video is the lone up close and clear film of a prime. The workout showcases great speed, flexibility ( on the weights ), timing, reflexes, strength, and quickness of hand and foot, etc.. It is perhaps the best complete workout film at heavyweight. those who see it will never confuse Jeffries with a plodding slugger.

    There is a rare film of Jeffries hitting a heavy bag. I wish some here could see it. After 10 seconds, the quick conclusion is this guy had some violent power. when he hits that bag, it jerks quickly in the direction his fists were traveling. I have seen Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, and Sonny Liston hit the bag. I say Jeffries and Liston are about even hitting the heavy bag, and look to be more forceful than than Louis, Dempsey and Mariano hitting the bag.

    It is likley thet heavy bags in these films ( which were filled with sand back in the early 1900's ), do not weight the same amount, so a fair conclusion on who worked the bag better is hard to reach. Just going on what they eyes see here.
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the workrate for Frazier over 15 rds would be the difference here....Frazier by UD....Jeffries was strong and durable and had some power....Joe could have some rocky moments in a strong battle
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wish I had more to see to judge the fight on and give a more concrete opinion, but either a Frazier decision based on volume or a Jefferies decision based on capitalizing on Joe's defensive openings and fairly one-dimensional offense wouldn't surprise me. I don't think either man gets stopped, though.
     
  4. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I've seen of Jeffries in his crouch w/ low-forward left makes me think he was pretty good at ducking the right and returning his left. But how relevant would that be against Frazier. Guys with facility in their left hands, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, seemed to get to Jeffries fairly well. I'm feeling more solid about favoring Frazier in a 15 round, Jeffries time machined into Frazier's day scenario. Still a tough fight, though.

    On the other hand, in Jeffries day, maybe they would have tied up each others left hands? It could end up a suprisingly low-output contest for 15 rounds, with Jeffries coming on later.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Sparring with your brother is one thing,getting your nose broke three times tells us that sometimes he had trouble measuring an inch imo.:lol:
    If you want to check out old timers sparring have a look at Jack Johnson,courtesy of You Tube , thats a BOXER!