jerry quarry question....

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  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    was there ever an era when he could have been the heavyweight champion? ive been watching some of his bouts and it just seems to me he was in an era of GREAT not just good fighters and he always seemed to come out a little short when it really meant something. i for one think he had all the makings of a champion i dont know how long he wouldhave been champ but he definitely had all the tools.he completley out classed a monstrous ron lyle and seemed to me to be an effective hitter who could move and box and Fight when he had to.
     
  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He might have been able to outbox Frazier if the fight had been 12 rounds.....and he had not stupidly tried of duke it out with Joe on the inside in the first fight.

    Maybe by SD in 12 rds.
     
  3. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    No matter what, Frazier would have forced him to fight.
     
  4. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'd have a shot at being an alphabet holder right now.
     
  5. janitor

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    He could have been the champion in a lot of eras, but it would always have required a measure of luck.

    There would always have been sombody out there who was better.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Imagine what he could do in the cruiserweight division today.

    That would guarante him something.
     
  7. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jerry may have been right there with Ezzard Charles.

    INGO versus Jerry Quarry would have been fun to watch (1959/1960/1961)
     
  8. janitor

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    He was not in Charles's class, but he might just be a favourite over Johansen.
     
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    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Cant understand what he was thinking staying in on Frazier and fighting him in a phonebooth brawl. He may have done very well for the first two rounds against frazier, but after that he got beaten up. He should have adjusted his gameplan and gone back to counterpunching, a style he was effective with.
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice thing about 12 rounds is all you have to do is win 6 rds, and split another one, and steal a decision.

    Quarry was a good boxer when he first came up....then for some reason evolved more into a slugger.

    SRL figured that out too when he beat Hagler in 12 rds.
     
  11. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    As good as Quarry was, Joe Frazier of 1969 was just on a greater level and I just don't see any way for Quarry to even go 12 against Frazier, let alone get the decision. Quarry had a great chin, but if nothing else, cuts would force an end.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see a way for Quarry to have stayed away from Joe. He was not a stick and move boxer. Frazier's unrelenting pressure would have forced Quarry to make a stand and fight.

    I would reckon those scorecards from 1969 would have been either 6-1, 5-2, or 5-1-1 in rounds in favor of Frazier. Quarry won that incredible first round, with the second round very close. (Angelo Dundee at ringside had Frazier winning rd 2) The rest were conclusively won by Frazier.

    1974 was pretty much a replay, even though both men were probably 75% of what they once were.

    I had a world of respect for Jerry Quarry. Tough, tough man. He took terrible punishment from Frazier in two fights.

    The Frazier-Quarry round 1 of fight 1 is one of the greatest rounds in heavyweight boxing history, imo.
     
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    I agree with you. Thanks for sharing. Keep updating.
     
  13. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There may be a few he could have beaten, how long he could stay champ is question. He was very inconsistant, and had good fights--Foster, Lyle, Shavers--and nights where he just was awful --2nd Frazier fight, Chuvalo.
     
  14. albinored

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    .....a quarry/johansen fight would have ended in one of two ways...quarry flat kayos ingo, or ingo quits.
     
  15. Quick Cash

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    It would depend heavily upon the timing of his challenge. On any given night, he could have won or lost against Sharkey. Moorer is another. And then obviously there's the likes of Leon.

    Conservatively, I would put him over Baer, Braddock, Spinks, and maybe an old Foreman. Very conservatively, I would tell you to only bet on the Spinks fight.