Joe Calzaghe's legacy

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  1. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    To be fair, Calzaghe probably hurt his hands on Jones chin:rofl
     
  2. RKO

    RKO Member Full Member

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    let's see him prove that
     
  3. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    that would be nice but Ward probably beats Joe now
     
  4. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    :lol:

    wow...just wow
     
  5. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You compete in a sport and never lose from age 17 - 37 and then you can **** on Joe's career if you want to.

    OK, so Joe didn't have the one huge career - defining fight. Other fighters have that kind of win and also losses to lesser opponents. Joe was consistent over an incredibly long time, adapted to brittle hands which robbed him of punching power and always found a way to win. He beat Eubank who was still good enough to jump two weight classes and look better against Carl Thompson than heavyweight saviour David Haye. He beat good B+ level fighters like Mitchell, Reid, Sheika consistently, was never seriously hurt, was never outboxed. Lacy was considered a favorite by many experts at the time and Joe annihilated him. When he fought Kessler, Joe was arguably past his prime and Kessler was sharper and better than when he lost to Ward. Hopkins was still good enough to school Pavlik after losing to Joe, where he employed every dirty trick, includinf faking low - blow pain to by time.

    There are different ways to build a legacy. Joe Louis had a level of opposition that wasn't really better than Calzaghe's, had a loss in his prime when he was the heavy favorite and somehow is regarded as Nr. 1 or 2 on most people's HW ATG lists. Hopkins has greater wins than Joe, but some came against clearly smaller fighters coming up in weight and he has losses to a nobody, two losses to Taylor. Joe would have never lost to a Taylor - level fighter.

    Interestingly, fighters give Joe huge credit. Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, SRL all praise Joe because they understand how difficult it is to stay on top for more than a decade. Keyboard warriors usually rip Joe's legacy because of Roy Jones being knocked out (which was just a farewell money fight for Joe) or a ring rusty Kessler losing to Ward.
     
  6. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    another calzaghe legacy thread...

    god esb is getting seriously tedious,let it go hes retired.
     
  7. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Hahaha.. this **** right here is the prime offender of trying to bolster calzaghe's legacy. Shall I drudge up some of your utter shite about how Jones was still prime when he fought Joe?
     
  8. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    yah go on then do it! if you can find any because i never once stated jones was prime you feckin imbecile...

    go on then!! otherwise let me declare you a moron, an idiot or a nefarious *******,take your pick.

    janes chicken: the 'one man idiot' bring it ***!!!!!!

    p.s where's your little friends exposed and dinamita you alt account missfits :lol:
     
  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right ... in this way you may think that Floyd is also a legend :patsch :lol:
     
  10. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    sad ****er still hasnt replied..

    hes trolling my post history as we speak,,sad twat...

    cue his gay lover,come on exposed....
     
  11. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    truth.
     
  12. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    being undefeated is worthless if your comp is shite. calz will be forgotten unless he comes back and proves to us all that he deserves to become an ATG. Hell, a youngling named Ward made the Kessler victory easy, and imo he aint even in his prime yet lol.
     
  13. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly though some people feel the need to discredit him.
     
  14. Johnnycl

    Johnnycl Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe will not be forgotten. At the very least, he'll live on in this debate (how good was he?) in the minds of boxing fans for years on end.
     
  15. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    QFT.

    It seems that people who want to hate Calzaghe don't understand the unpredictable nature of combat sports...A beating B and B beating C does not make A better than C. Not in boxing.