johannson vs carnera....

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by shommel, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2008
    Messages:
    4,118
    Likes Received:
    11
    can ingo take out the ambling alp?how and why?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,716
    Likes Received:
    30,650
    By landing Ingo's Bingo the punch that Carnera was highly susceptible to.Johannson could whack with that right.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2006
    Messages:
    71,997
    Likes Received:
    28,008
    It has to be noted that Carnera was susceptible to the right hand and this is part of the reason why Max Baer gave him such a good hiding. Baer for all his clowning esentialy fought a tactical fight.

    Of course Johansen was not as durable as Baer and wasnt as dangerous in the later rounds so Carnera might be able to outlast Ingo and take control of the fight.
     
  4. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5,065
    Likes Received:
    6,949
    I think Carnera could weather the early storm and get the win over Johansson.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,716
    Likes Received:
    30,650
    Its hard to tell how dangerous Ingo was in the later rounds because he rarely went into them ,but he kod Franco Cavichi in 13rds and Joe Erskine in 13rds so I guess he was pretty dangerous.
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    11,632
    Likes Received:
    345
    Ingo would drop Primo, but not keep him there. Carnera was not prone to losing his senses like Patterson sometimes did. Sharkey dropped him with a bomb of a hook in their first bout, yet Primo immediately got up, then had the presence of mind to immediately get down to one knee to take advantage of a full count. Pulling Max Baer down with him was a shrewd time buying tactic. Stepping on Loughran's feet was a clever little dirty trick for slowing Loughran down.

    This one goes the distance. If it's scored on a rounds basis, Primo takes it. On points, I figure it's a toss-up, depending on how many knockdowns Johansson can register.

    Carnera's ankle was injured early against Baer. Presuming he suffers no such injury with Ingo, I think Primo takes it.

    Johansson had a habit of continually retreating to draw his opponent into his right. That would backfire here as his upright European stance would leave him on the end of Carnera's pesky long jab. Primo could also retreat behind his reach against somebody Ingo's size. Carnera would be busier. In close, he would be using his weight and strength to lean on Johansson to tire him as the bout progressed.

    Primo had a bigger heart and better conditioning, as he was more proven over 15 rounds. Ingo's best shot would be to halt him as he did Patterson, with early multiple knockdowns forcing a stoppage. However, Baer could not do this, so I doubt Johansson would.

    Carnera W 15 PTS Johansson
     
  7. road_warrior_99

    road_warrior_99 Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2008
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    4
    If Carnera is mobile a foot like I've seen in some of his fights he could win a decision. If Carnera tries to exchange with Ingo flat footed he could get caught with Ingo's power right which could hurt him. Carnera did not respect Baer's right hand which was a big mistake, especially because he walked into it increasing the power effect.