Kid Gavilan

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  1. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Where does ESB Classic rate him all-time in the heavenly Welterweight Kingdom these days?
     
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  2. Flea Man

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    No.2 or no.3 depending on how I'm feeling about Ray Leonard on any given day.
     
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  3. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    Would you rate him about the same in a H2H sense?

    (I would). :yep
     
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  4. Flea Man

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    Yes!
     
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  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, 2 or 3 for me too.

    Holds his own with pretty much anyone you care to name in the welterweight division.
     
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  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Number three.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ESB ranked him #5 in Rummy's poll:

    1. 1049 Sugar Ray Robinson (41)
    2. 524 Sugar Ray Leonard
    3. 322 Henry Armstrong
    4. 301 Jose Napoles
    5. 275 Kid Gavilan

    I personally had him at #4.

    01 - Sugar Ray Robinson
    02 - Sugar Ray Leonard
    03 - Jack Britton
    04 - Kid Gavilan
     
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  8. Flea Man

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    Britton is the guy I could see pushing either Leonard or Gavilan out of the top 3.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He finished 14th in that poll!
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    Didn't Hasegawa make the top ten bantams?!?!

    To be fair I never took my picks seriously back then. I would now!
     
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  11. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Where the hell is El Feo?!
     
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  12. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    7-10.
     
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  13. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    :nono

    I completely trust Flea's opinion.

    He said El Feo is the 2nd greatest welter of all time.

    Here's his list in case you missed it, HoI:

     
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  14. Flea Man

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    :rofl
     
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  15. Quick Cash

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    I believe he is at a size disadvantage against most conventionally acknowledged welterweights, but that is not to say his talent won't shine through regardless. He is well among the very best of the bunch, but his exact placing depends on whom you include in your list.
     
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