Kotelnik vs Alexander

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  1. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just checked this fight out as I heard it was a good, competitive struggle but was appalled by what I actually saw. Alexander fought like a novice and deserved to loose by a considerble distance but did he benefit from hometown or subjective scoring? He certainly outworked Kotelnik and was rewarded for it but all I saw was lots of right leads falling short of their target and combinations bouncing off the Ukranian's guard. Whilst by comparison Kotelnik was calm and precise, picking Devon off with well timed jabs and straight rights. Cutting his opponent and hurting him on occasion.
    Does anyone else see it this way? Or do people believe the decision was just and not a robbery as I see it?

    Btw, Harold Lederman scored it 9-3 to Alexander and needs to be fired for gross incompetence!


    Yours foaming at the mouth,

    Outraged from Tumbridge Wells.
     
  2. EnglishWay

    EnglishWay KO King 2010 Full Member

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    Alexander did not win that fight shocking decision.
     
  3. johna_83

    johna_83 31/10/2010 Full Member

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    Think i scored it 116-112 Kotelnik, blocked everything and countered Devon's grunting at will. Poor poor decision
     
  4. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats what I thought. Complete robbery! (A phrase that is completely overused but appropriate in this instance)
    How on earth did Lederman score it 9-3 for Alexander?
     
  5. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what Lederman gave to Alexander, mines was in reverse.

    I think I had 117-111 or something to Kotelnik. I watched it live and to be honest if people are scoring rounds on punch output then the game is ****ed.

    Alexander was punching thin air on a number of occasions. Kotelnik barely wasted a punch and certainly landed the clear, more eye catching shots.

    I'm Kotelnik said that Mayweather told him that he also won.
     
  6. GazOC

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    I think people (Lederman?) got caught up in punches thrown rather than punches landed. It looked like it was going to be long night for Kotelnik during the first couple of rounds but he weathered it and clearly won the fight IMHO.
     
  7. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah but what people tend to forget about the Hopkins fight, Calzaghe landed more punches on Hopkins than any other fighter, so I think that says alot.

    Alexander was exposed that night with those right hands he was taking. To be honest that was the first time I had watched Alexander, and after reading a lot of hype about him, I was shocked at how easy (imo) Kotelnik "beat" him.

    Personally speaking I think it was the biggest robbery of 2010 so far.

    Kellerman and whoever else was doing the HBO commentary - whenever they asked Lederman for his score card, you could hear in their voice that they were like "what the ****?" but didn't tell or question him.

    Lederman should have sacked for that scoring imo, it was the worst card since Lewis-Holyfield 1
     
  9. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could hear by the tone of their voices that they thought that "the old man is off his meds again" but didn't want to say anything.:D
     
  10. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    10 rounds in and Lederman's score is appalling. It's just nut-huggery. How can you score rounds when a guy is missing most of his punches or having them blocked?
     
  11. One Bomb

    One Bomb mantis style Full Member

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    Watched it live. Didn't score it or anything but after a bit of a slow start Kotelnik was consistently knocking Alexander's head back with precise jabs and the occasional sharp right hand, while catching pretty much everything that came his way on the arms and gloves. Defo seemed like Kotelnik had done enough to win the fight.

    I know American judges are fond of aggression and that but you've gotta land a few meaningful punches as well and only Kotelnik was the only one doing that.

    Could probably do with rewatching and scoring it to be honest.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    ^^^

    That's pretty much it.

    In America, the man coming forward might as well have a couple of rounds start. Output is the key, rather than accuracy.
     
  13. Havik

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    I though Kotelnik won that fight by 4 rounds or so. Pretty much everyone here had Kotelnik winning iirc.
     
  14. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wonder what the reaction was on the general (moron) forum?:think
     
  15. GazOC

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    That Alexander was an overrated, exposed, hype-job.