lederman card

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  1. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    does anyone know what his final score was?

    i've heard alot of people mention hbo bias
     
  2. flyguy

    flyguy New Member Full Member

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    I thing he had it 200,000,000 to -120,000,000 for pac. they wonder why boxing is in trouble??
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I think he gave Marquez round 2 and 5.
     
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    1971791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    116-112 Pacquiao.
     
  5. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    dear god really?:patsch

    there is actually no hope
     
  6. sandman592

    sandman592 Member Full Member

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    he gave marquez 3 rounds i think very bad scoring
     
  7. Golden Boy 360

    Golden Boy 360 Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow Full Member

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    116-112. Awful. Worse that most casual fans get their impression of the ifght from his cards.
     
  8. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    Lederman's clueless sometimes. I'm glad I didn't see the HBO telecast and I never intend on listening to it. If anybody won that fight 116-112, it was Juan Manuel Marquez.
     
  9. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure Bob Arum bought him a nice little villa in the South of France.

    I used to defend Lederman, but no longer. What a bunghole. Just another *****, like Kellerman & the rest.
     
  10. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Well, Lederman had Paul Williams winning the first fight with Quintana 115-113. :conf
     
  11. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right on the button.:bart
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some 2 or 3 years ago HBO simply started to manipulate compubox stats, Lederman probably got the call back then to start scoring for HBO fighters. It's all business, HBO commentary, manipulated stats and scores, corrupt judging and media all rather just cover this up to move on to the big money fight, they all stink. What does our word worth compared to the majority who believe what they hear and read instead of believing their eyes? Nothing. That's why the JMMs will be always ****ed and the Pacquiaos will always benefit.

    Money.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I never seen the fight (Im refusing to pay for any Pac or Floyd fight until they face each other) but it seems that JMM has yet again proved at least equal to Pacquiao in a h2h battle... this time vs the `super improved` version, just saying.
     
  14. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  15. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had it 117-111 to Marquez.

    I have rewatched it and tried to see what the judges saw giving Pacquiao the tighter rounds and still had Marquez winning 115-113.