Let's anaylse Niccolino Locche

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    The guy is an anomaly how good he is. He hardly trained, didnt look like a gifted fighter.

    But he had one of the greatest defences ever.

    What i want to know is how did he do it?

    so lets anaylse his style and defensive moves and break him down and find out how he did it.

    I'm on a different computer where Youtube dosent work so i cant post up a video of him but i upped a video of him against Carlos Ortiz if someone would care to find it and post it as i added notes to it anaylsing him.
     
  2. teeto

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    I'll defo post that vid in a minute. You already know i have him in my mind as the man with the best defence ever, which is of course debatable. I know you stated before today that he could use lateral movement, and i don't doubt that, but the footage we have him where he hardly does, and employs his defence to perfection is simply breathtaking. He's schooling Cervantes in their rematch at times before he gets cut and Cervantes gets on top of him (likely Locche past his best in fairness).

    The way he can cling to his man and move the head up and down to dodge straight shots is just insane, the way he seems to have a forcefield around his torso impresses me even more.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    The best footage available of him by far is against Fuji. That would probably be the fight to watch to get the best idea of his abilities. That said, he seemed to have more bounce in his step against Ortiz in the small HL of the fight on Youtube, and was a tad more slender. So it's likely that Locche at his best was better than anything we've actually seen on film, though he looked about as good as it gets against Fuji.

    As to the question, I just think he had an innate ring radar. His reaction time was phenomenal. He saw punches coming well before they were within landing distance, and was often able to counter off of a miss just as quicly. It was like he saw things in slow motion and took the perfect opening every time.

    Not only that, but it appears from contemporary accounts and the limited footage available that he knew a plethora of crafty little tricks that opponents just didn't know how to deal with. Even Ortiz looked befuddled at times in the footage of their fight. The guy was just a master craftsman, simple as.
     
  4. teeto

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    I can't find the clip of him and Ortiz by the way.
     
  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Locche shut out a future hall of famer on the scorecards and made a durable opponent quit for not being able to hit him.

    I'd say that the first Cervantes fight was his last great performance. The fight against Fuji was a clinic and likely his best completely filmed performance. Can't imagine the frustration Fuji was going through, he was throwing everything from every angle and hardly landed a punch.

    I'd like to see more of his fights against Carlos Ortiz and Ismael Laguna, both great fighters in their own right. Not sure if his fight against Eddie Perkins was ever filmed.

    Locche vs Carlos Hernandez sounds like an exciting fight. He also proved he was tough against Domingo Corpas, when he suffered numerous injuries and went the 15 round distance.

    Locche fights Carlos Ortiz:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP5w-d8U73s

    Locche wins the title:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsRX6r19ws0

    Locche the untouchable:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LEKHMUCh8k

    A short HL I made of him:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ct2jCu7y9Y
    3:20
     
  6. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Thanks GreatA, and nice music in your one. In the Ortiz one, all i can say is the great Carlos Ortiz looks very pissed off there.

    That 'the intouchable' one, i think about 3 and a half mins in, listen to that crowd, it's like a football match.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i cant see YT but TGA is that my video of Locche you posted against Ortiz with the notes on it.

    Pea very good point about the Ortiz video where he has alot of bounce and looks slimmer. He shows some good movement in it IMO

    I have a few more highlights that testify to his skills ill try and upload them although hes mucking around in afew of them
     
  8. teeto

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    Yeah it's your one.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ill up those other ones sometime as there interesting aswell.

    You mentioned his crowds sound like a football crowd, every clip i have all the fans is chanting 'Nino' he was a well supported guy.
     
  10. teeto

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    On that vid i mentioned above, when i first discovered it for myself, i just kept playing that bit over and over again, it's some special **** that.
     
  11. Chinxkid

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    He's one of the best at sensing an opponent's intention. Has great presence of mind in there. He keys off of not a punch, but the intention of a punch, a shoulder turn, a foot movement, also the pattern his guy has shown him in the course of the fight...

    One thing I notice about Locche and all the guys that are great at this, was they look off sometimes, almost away, seeming into space, but what they're doing is getting a full view of their guy, so they won't miss the intention of their guy's movement. Beyond speed and footwork, the guys that were best at this had a very clear, keen instinct.
     
  12. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wasn't one of the things that made Willie Pep so good was, aware of his opponent's keying off his intention, he'd give them one indication, then another, and when they committed he'd go with something else?
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    great points Chinx very good spot in them looking away into space, i noticed that the other day but didnt think nothing of it
     
  14. Xplosive

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    Jesus Christ. That display in the 15th round vs Cervantes was somethin else. And Cervantes was a GREAT fighter.

    Locche was special.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    xpolisve you lost me

    the 15th against Cervantez

    the first fight dosent exist on film as far as i know and the 2nd cervantes fight is stopped on cuts in the 10th or 12th if i remmeber rightly