I liked him when he did fight like Chavez but with a bit of Saldivar mixed in too, as an aggressive counter puncher. Really awesome watching him slip shots from Morales then flurry with combos as you say, underrated hands.
Yeah. That lucky punch thing is one that drives me bezerk ! My none Boxing mates are never slow to drop that one out. If I had a Quid for every time I've had to ask " So the guy threw the shot intending it not to land ??! ".
I'm amazed that no one has beaten me to this but how about the " Game's gone. Nothing like in my day. These lads today couldn't live with the Fighters of - insert decade " narrative ? Honestly, to hear some of these characters bang on, you'd swear every fight in their day was Ward v Gatti or Froch v Kessler and every single Fighter came off some endless Murderers' Row ! A lot of these guys hang around Boxing gyms too. Unblievable !
Patterson’s chin and heart are underrated Marciano cutting things is absolutely overblown. Throughout his career he was only in danger of a stoppage twice (once was from a Charles elbow on his nose). He would always cut above his left eye I think from scar tissue but it was never an issue. Tyson was unstoppable at his best. Great for sure but no one is unstoppable
Forgive me if this is brought up already, but "Tyson was nothing after 4 (or six) rounds." What a bunch of crap. Same with "Tyson was nowhere near ATG". Rubbish. Teddy Atlas' sour grapes are apparently infectious (and this is coming from a guy whose favorite fighter isn't exactly Mike Tyson).
Not so much on this board, but there was a perception amongst casual British fans that Henry Cooper could have been world heavyweight champion if he had tougher skin. In reality, he lost by traditional routes against most of the world class opponents he fought, and outside of the Ali fights he had two cut-eye stoppages early in his career before he became a contender. He was stopped authentically by Patterson, Ingo, Folley and Joe Bygraves, and outpointed by Rischer, Amos Johnson, and Joe Erskine. As dominant as he was against domestic and to a certain extent European opposition, he came up short more often than not at world level, and the knockdown of Ali elevated him to a status beyond his achievements. Of course, he was such a lovely fella that you don't begrudge him that.
That Chavez wasn't beating Taylor unmercifully before the 12th. There are ways to be winning that don't necessarily show up on the scorecard.