Lonsdale Belt

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TommyV, Apr 18, 2009.

  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yes there was, black British fighters had to fight for the Empire (Commonweath) title until well into the 20th century. I think Dick Turpin was the first black person to win a British title.
     
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    Gaz are you the fountain of british boxing knowledge :lol:
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I'm just an old **** who reads too many boxing books!!:roll:;)
     
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    well im glad you do :happy
     
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    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Cheers gaz the info you gave on warren also made me think he was less of a **** :lol:
     
  7. GazOC

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    He IS still a ****, just not any worse than any of the other ****s that have gone before him!!!;)
     
  8. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My dad's got one. Back then you had to win 3 title fights to get it. Winning and defending both the same thing. Interestingly I think he still receives a pension on it, a pound a week. Yes, thats £1.00. Not much but I suppose when they first came out it was decent money.
     
  9. GazOC

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    Whos your Dad? You're right, it used to be any 3 title wins at the same weight.
     
  10. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Alan Rudkin
     
  11. GazOC

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    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a coincidence! That's him in my avatar as well against Harada. He's alright, 67 now and Living in Liverpool.
     
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    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    another merseyside boxer,nella tarleton ,would have been the first boxer to benefit from the lonsdale belt pension had he not died before his 50th birthday.
    andrew jeptha was the first black man to win a british title ,in 1907.
     
  14. I thought you had to defend the belt three times to keep it?

    It used to be five times with three being mandatories, unless the first two were mandatories making it only four defences required. If the first two and the fourth defence were mandatories you didn't have to defend it in the third fight but would have to fight a top ten ranked opponent within three months of the second defence. If you won the title then lost in your next fight then you would have to start over again, unless you won the rematch within a three month period and only if your first defence was not a mandatory defence and the opponent was not top ten ranked. The only other way was to defend it four times in 12 months with the first and fourth being mandatories and the other two being within three months of each other and not against the same opponent, unless the opponent was a top ten ranked fighter in which case the fourth fight wasn't necessary.
     
  15. sam1222

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    i thought it was 2 successful defences....