my excuse will be that he cheated because its a boxing match using Queensbury rules. Submissions are for grappling and MMA matches. Clearly he'd be cheating.
False. More people hate on PBF than Pacman on ESB. Everytime they do a poll on who the top p4p is, Pacman comes in JUST behind PBF. So he is not underrated here. Underrated fighters are guys like Dawson, Calderon, R. Marquez etc. Pacman is vastly overrated by his fans (Yes MAB is past his best, JMM is not prime but still good, and Morales is shot to hell....go fight Guzman, Soto, Valero etc) and underrated by his haters as every other fighter here is. The problem in Pacfan land is that they think anyone who doesn't call him the best (generalization) is underrating him or insulting him.
Thou shall not touch PBF's nuts or else KG will defend it!!! Wa sup KG, I haven't seen you joining our dicussion lately? I think Pac is slighly underrated by most ESB members in terms of ATG matchup. Most of you favored retired & expired HOFamer like Gomez, Sanchez, against Pac. The reason here is because that's the only way they can win an argument coz they can't find one fighter right now to beat Pac. It terms of P4p ratings Pac should be higher than PBF coz Pac separate himself against co P4p & HOF competition. While PBF has a Close wins against Castillo & DLH.
Actually it's not true that Filipinos worship Pacman. There are a lot of people here who think that Manny has become mayabang (airy). True, he is a hero here but nobody worships him here... Except maybe PacDBest and his friends... But what I'm trying to point out is that these people are not representative of my race. We are a proud people with a fighting tradition. Don't get let a few hecklers get to you.
Don't you ever call another poster a nuthugger.:deal As for your stupidity....Yes, PBF has close wins over P4P competition. He also has no losses or draws. Can Pacman say the same? Ok then...moving on. I don't join your discussions because you're a sack swinger and these are the same discussion you have in every thread, even when Pacman is not brought up. You try and guess who someone else's favorite fighter is, compare him to Pacman and then say they are a nuthugger just like you. Newsflash, join in another thread outside of Pacman and you will learn that some of us bash PBF and defend PBF. Each individual thread deserves individual answers. IE, Call PBF the greatest of all time, I will call you an IDIOT (just like I call you one for picking Pacman against everyone). Rank PBF outside of the current top 10 P4P and I will call you an idiot...it depends on the subject. Unlike you, I don't defend a fighter on every subject the exact same way. PS. Plenty of posters have argued that Pacman would lose to Guzman, Diaz, Casamayor etc. So don't act like it's only PAST fighters they put him in the ring against. Oh ye of selective memory.
I don't worship Pac, Just a Big fan(in terms of Boxing). I even Pick Darlene against him and I'm Glad she won. I don't buy Pac CD or watch his Movies.
I believe they were getting the same amount of money. And for JMM, apparently, that was a gross injustice. Given his notoriety that time as a boring fighter who can't draw a fly in his fights, while knowing Pac was becoming the next big thing in boxing becasue of his sensational power, his team still felt they deserve better than Pac who arguably lifted that fight to the casual fans with the excitement he brought there.
It is a FACT that many of the fans of Pacman here jump on you and say you are not respecting Pacman or are a hater if you don't pick him to beat someone. Look at what PacDBest said to me when I simply said that Pacman is not the most underrated fighter on this board. How was that insulting? You're not underrated when the nearly the entire population rates you top 3 p4p. But he had to get pissy about it.