Marcel Cerdan

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    His unfortunate loss and subsequent death, but as mentioned maybe he was near the end anyway? He still deserved a Lamotta rematch

    People forget he was first a WW champ and he nearly fought Henry Armstrong at WW. I think he probably beats the smaller man and comes to fame a little earlier

    As a boxer he's a very good inside puncher, but coming inside he's a bit crude more walking in quite slowly without a jab. He slipped allot of Zales punches but against someone quicker and sharper I think his defence would be a bit stiff and it was against Lamotta
     
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    Ray Minus beat Paul Ferreri who in 1979 had lost to Carlos Zarate. Hey presto....Ray Minus discussion
     
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    I kind of see him as underrated, actually. He often gets relegated to a footnote in Jake's career (and he was more competitive in that loss than many purport)
     
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    :clap: Ferreri beat Borkorsor too, and Minus lost to Orlando Canizales and Israel Contreras.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I know it's Cerdan. I was rushing to post because I had to leave.

    I liked what I saw against Zale. Looked very classy throwing those double, triple left hooks upstairs.
     
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    No worries you made the same mistake in the OP as well so was trying to help you out.

    I was impressed too until I realised what a corpse Zale was at that point. For aesthetics Cerdan's devastation of Dick Turpin is a good watch.
     
  8. john garfield

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    Used to watch Cerdan spar Italo Scortachini (who was a pretty damn good middlewight) at Jake LaMotta's gym in the Bronx.

    Cerdan was charismatic when took off his headgear. Everybody in the gym gravitated to him, like they did Graziano at Stillman's.
     
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    Interesting, John. So Marcel & Jake had each other pretty well scouted from training in close proximity then? Did they ever spar before they fought?
     
  10. john garfield

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    Good observation, IB, but I never saw them spar, only floor exercises 'n shadow boxing.

    From having been around Jake for many years, he wouldn't have altered what he was gonna do, even if it was a truck.
     
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    Appreciate it, San.
     
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    :lol: But Cerdan, maybe he was able to gather some intel on the Bull from getting a close look?

    Maybe without the injury he could've exploited a thing or two?
     
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    Never thought of it, but absolutely true, IB.
     
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    Injury?
     
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    His hurt shoulder