Marcianos physical strenght?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Surely every exercise where you are on your feet, moving quick, thinking on your feet in repsonse, is substantially bodyweight exercise. Since by definition you are carrying your bodyweight around during it, at high pace.

    Seems to me you are proving that excess weight is a disadvantage.
     
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    no it depends how you define "strength".
     
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    If all you do is run around doing a marathon, then weight is a disadvantage.

    But marathon runners don't receive or dish out damage.

    Taken to the extreme a marathon runner would be absolutely manhandled by Lennox Lewis.
    Superior power to weight ratio and stamina doesn't matter if the power/absolute strength deficit is too big.

    You aren't just carrying your bodyweight around, you are also trying to get the other guy on his ass which requires power even at the cost of stamina.

    And if boxing was purely about your stamina/cardio boxers would look like marathon runners.
     
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    During the Korean War the US army was testing a new 50 caliber machine gun. It was a weapon that was very powerful and routinely destroyed their testing equipment. The solution they found was to fire the gun directly into the Rock's chin and have him compare the force with the previous models to judge its effectiveness.
     
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    Of all my friends I can't throw the ball the furthest, at least I used to not be able to my whole life. But I can punch the hardest by far.
     
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    Marciano wasn't even good. The world just conspired to let him be HW champ for a while.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    then why are you taking it to the extreme?
     
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    why would anyone in this universe claim it was purely cardio?

    which brings me to ask, why are you thus raising this point? winning an argument against a wooden board that you just put up, isnt winning. Baords dont hit back.
     
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    They used to. Especially in the lower weights.
     
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    According to the classic section Foreman WAS stronger than Ali.
     
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    He did come along at the right time. There are few times after him that I would pick him to hold the title.
     
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    I don't see him winning the title against Liston, Ali ,Holmes, or Foreman.He has an excellent chance with Frazier imo,his two fisted power could make up for Frazier's faster hands.
     
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    And unable to use any of that to his advantage as Ali was free to pull Foreman's neck and tire George out (who could not get himself free)
     
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    So obviously "brute strength" isn't superior to speed and agility.
     
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    More like medium distance runners.

    Except the lanky midgets in the southern weight divisions.
    Panama Al Brown, Saddler resembled marathon runners.