McCallum vs. Monzon

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  1. MRBILL

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    I saw the fight....... McCallum looked bored and *****-whipped in the first fight with Kalambay........ McCallum scored a fairly easy but dull decision in the rematch....... It goes to show what I guy can do when a fire is lit under his ass and he must win........ Kalambay was no stiff or bum, and his KO loss to Nunn in '89 was a bit of a fluke / lucky punch..... McCallum at 160 to 168 pounds was just too swift and savy for the slower but harder punching Monzon........

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    Rodrigo Valdez and Emile Griffith would have beaten McCallum...Griff particularly, even if they fought more than once, Griffith would beat him in a rematch...and again, this is not taking anything away from Mike McCallum.
     
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    Valdez had a shot, but no ****ing way Griffith beats McCallum........ Griffith was a natural at 144 to 151 pounds....... At 155 +, Griffith was small........ McCallum was huge at 154 and sizeable at 160......... McCallum pounds on Emile Griffith for a late round TKO..........

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    Griffith doesn't stand a chance against McCallum, McCallum does everything better and doesn't get blasted out in a round by a gatekeeper. As for Valdez he'd be a tough fight but I'm taking the bodysnatchers better skills
     
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    Yep.... I'll buy that........:yep

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    McCallum would have beaten both Valdez, and the homo.
     
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    Styles make fights. kalambay was a different type of fighter from monzon, beihg a hit and run boxer. Monzon was much more stationary, so mcCallum wouldn't have to chase him down.

    Monzon was a fighter who capitalized on his physical advantages, and his opponents were generally smaller than him. McCallum (who was 5'11" I believe) would not be as physically overmatched and was an excellent all-around fighter who would not be man-handled by Monzon.
     
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    ****in' A. Skippy!!!:good

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    It was pretty one-sided...Mike looked confused for the most part.

    But Kalambay is a different stylistic problem...I agree the comparison is a stretch.
     
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    Monzon UD.
     
  11. MRBILL

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    That broad is smokin' hot in the avatar........... I think I saw a pic of the same broad in high heels on the bed........ BOING!!
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    Not on.



    Anyway, McCallum woulda beaten Valdez, Valdez took time off at time and McCallum has the chin, jab and all-round game to decision Valdez.

    I can make a case for McCallum beating Monzon but can't be arsed at the moment, I think in a five match series McCallum would win two.
     
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    This fight would be very close in my opinion...Mike has tools to give Monzon some problems.

    I don't really see the Kalamby fight having any stylistic relevance to the way this fight would play out.

    I'm undecided as of yet...
     
  14. MRBILL

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    Right on...... As stated earlier, Kalambay was totally different in style compared to Monzon's straight up and apply pressure routine that often worked well to walk-down smaller or weaker fighters......... Kalambay was a savy boxer who gave his opponents fits by using speed and angles.......

    McCallum would not have to go looking for Monzon; Monzon would be right there looking to trade blows... McCallum was very close to the giant 160 pounder Monzon in size... But McCallum was more quicker / slicker with a granite jaw...... The '72 Monzon would **** a brick against the '87 to '89 McCallum........
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  15. natonic

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    I'll take Monzon by close decision. Monzon took apart some fighters the same size as McCallum (Benvenuti and Mundine). Briscoe was a powerful dude too. So I don't go with the theory that Monzon didn't fight any bigger fighters. I do agree that McCallum was a great fighter and had the style to hang with Monzon. McCallum would either have to outwork or outmuscle Monzon and I just don't think he quite do either.