Moorer vs. Saad Muhammad

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Flea Man, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Some people think Moorer's LHW resume is overrated, but how would he fare against all-action Matthew Saad Muhammad???
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    Messages:
    36,579
    Likes Received:
    21,301
    Not well....Far more impressed by Mr Franklin at the weight.

    I say its a good tussle for the first 2/3...but Moorer weakened by making the weight gets stopped at some point in the last 1/3...maybe even earlier.
    Cant really picture Michael taking this one.
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    82,426
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    I actually think Moorer would do well....it'd be an all-action fight where both guys get hurt badly, but I think Muhammad....who was more adept at taking beatings....would take it via PTS.
     
  4. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    29,943
    Likes Received:
    8,603
    Moorer's abilty to take a punch at LH was actually pretty good, and Saad's proclivity to go to war doesn't serve him that well against a guy to was a murderous puncher at that weight. Tough call, imo...but I think this plays out like Jackson/McClellan 1, with Saad playing the Jackson role.

    Moorer KO 6.
     
  5. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,372
    Likes Received:
    16
    I'd pick moore. Moore is one of the top punchers in light heavyweight history and I couldn't see matthew taking barrages of punishment without going down. Furthermore, with the way that he fought after abandoning defense to please crowds I think that there's an excellent chance of him being seriously injured in this fight.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,214
    Likes Received:
    27,717
    The problem with sizing Moorer up to any all time great light heavyweight, is that he had too few fights against credible opposition at this weight to make any sort of a reasonable assesment. Leslie Stewart may very well be the best man he ever beat at 175 lbs and from what I recall Moorer was actually behind before stopping Stewart later.

    Although Moorer was a dangerous southpaw with enough power to stop any light heavyweight, I can't give him the nod against a man who was far more proven at these weight perameters.

    I'm going with Saad by a decision.
     
  7. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2004
    Messages:
    4,964
    Likes Received:
    84
    Moorer fought at a slow methodical pace, unlike the high output dynamic approach fighters like Johnson and Lopez in their rematch used to turn the fight into wars.

    I think he gets picked off to an extent early in a competitive fight and laid clean out before he gets the chance to really get to Saad.It's possible he could really hurt him he lands right, but i have vastly more faith in Saad's ability to recover and suck up punishment than i do moorer.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2007
    Messages:
    27,199
    Likes Received:
    101
    Once again, I agree with Mantequilla. Moorer was a puncher with a decent jab at LHW, that's pretty much it. He lacked physical strength and any kind of defensive skills, and against a puncher like Muhammad, that spells doom. I'm shocked that so many would favor him, I consider Saad at least a full level above.
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    11,935
    Likes Received:
    100
    I don't know about that, I remember seeing a couple of fights where it looked like his chin might at least have cause to question it.


    As has been pointed out, Moorer liked to fight at a slow methodical pace against fighters who offered any resistance, and it's hard to fully assess him given the fairly low quality of his opposition.

    I would have to give Saad the edge for his strength and power here.
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    18,333
    Likes Received:
    15,922
    I hate to agree with this! I'm a big franklin/saad phan, but this is what I see happening as well, although I would go around 11-12th rds. But I would be cheering for another Miricle from matt!
     
  11. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2007
    Messages:
    27,199
    Likes Received:
    101
    I am perplexed right now. It's now official, Moorer at LHW is one of the most overrated fighters ever. I knew this **** went on in the General Forum, but I really didn't figure the Classic Forum would be on his one-dimensional nuts like this.
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    MSM by KO.
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    18,333
    Likes Received:
    15,922
    I'm a homophobe, so I ain't hangin' on any nuts!!!! Personally I would bve cheering my heart out for Matt who I think is a great LHW as well. I know moorer didn't fight world shattering comp during his title years at LH, but I am not sure I remember any of them going the distance. I personally am not even a small time fan of Moorer, I just see it going down. peace
     
  14. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2007
    Messages:
    6,292
    Likes Received:
    56
    If Moorer wanted to go to war, then Saad would match him punch for punch. Then drag him in to the deep waters of the late rounds & drown Moorer. Saad TKO 11.
     
  15. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2004
    Messages:
    1,720
    Likes Received:
    13

    I have to disagree. Moorer had a great jab at LHW. Defensively he was very sound. Took lots of punches on the gloves and forearms, was very adept at slipping jabs and right leads with a tilt of his head to his left and his foot positioning was always good against both righties and other southpaws. He was very efficient and accurate due to his fundamentals. Moorer counterpunched superbly and carried thunderous power in both hands. Rather than over rated i feel he is dismissed at light heavy, at 6' 2" with a 78" reach he was a big LHW, southpaw to boot, who H2H is trouble for most at this weight