Mr ibo

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  1. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I admit I was wrong... Geales not the sore loser.......its his team....this protest sux.....Lots of other fighters get the wrong decision 5 times worse than this.....Geale got beaten...just read the paper.....I don't think independent judges will see it any different....Mundine landed the cleaner more powerful shots...end of story
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    It isnt comparable to Dib-Marali fight...Choc edged this one clearly, Im not going to argue with someone who saw it the other way but I cant see anyone who has been in boxing for some time seeing this as controversial.
     
  3. Phil Austin

    Phil Austin Keep on Kronkin on! Full Member

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    I've got no problem with Grange lodging a protest - they are doing their job and looking after their fighter: I'd expect nothing less from professionals TBH
     
  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I totally understand Grange doing that...but I personally dont expect anything more to come of it if procedures are followed correctly..which of course I have every bit of faith in the IBO doing.
     
  5. Phil Austin

    Phil Austin Keep on Kronkin on! Full Member

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    Same procedure as Dib-Marali WAR
     
  6. IrnBruMan

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    :lol:

    Funny how you don't mind using the paper as incontrovertible proof that Mundine won, but any time there is an article crticising Mundine you question the integrity of the publication :hey

    Anyways, I'm just winding you up :yep
     
  7. DaSweetScience

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    Phil - Well done last night. Just remember David Gallop has one of these every Monday morning!!

    A question - When the 3 selected protest judges are watching the tape of the fight (sound down of course) to determine judging and refereeing irregularities do they have the benefit of slo mo to gauge knockdowns or do they judge in real time?

    Do the 3 judges judge it together or apart?

    Is there a debate or discussion or simply 3 completed cards submitted?

    I'm intrigued.
     
  8. sambo1987

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    Can a judge score a KD if the ref doesn't acknowledge it?
     
  9. the beaver

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    Obviously i'm not Phil, but i should imagine the 3 judges wld watch the fight independently, meaning by themselves. No discussion should take place until after the cards are handed in and no slow mo should be used.

    Otherwise it just becomes an open discussion which helps little in the scheme of things
     
  10. Phil Austin

    Phil Austin Keep on Kronkin on! Full Member

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    No is the simple answer to that one mate
     
  11. Phil Austin

    Phil Austin Keep on Kronkin on! Full Member

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    Can I gave Gallops salary then? :D

    The judges will be scoring the fight only not the other contentious issues as the referee is the only one who determines knockdowns.

    The judges will be separate, probably in different parts of the world.

    Their cards will then be submitted to Frank Brunette the chairman in charge of such things who will report back to Mr Levine. The other issues ie possibility of a knockdown, tape will be discussed between Mr Levine and myself
     
  12. julian

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    Contrary to what you may believe Phil,

    Not everybodys stupid.
     
  13. Ben K

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    Gday Phil,
    I don't want to pick on you mate as everyone else is it seems , but you mentioned you wouldn't have scored the Knockdown if you were the ref on the Sweetscience ?? Clearly by the rules of Boxing it was a knockdown as Mundine was hit and lost his footing,Both gloves touched the canvas. That is a Knockdown isn't it??

    I really enjoyed the fight and hope this gets sorted for your sanity's sake :p
     
  14. Phil Austin

    Phil Austin Keep on Kronkin on! Full Member

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    Once again Julian I don't give a f*ck what you think - you're entitled to your opinion and I respect that.

    Ben, TBH mate I don't feel picked on by the majority - people have questions and I am prepared to answer them - they might not like my answers, but I gave it a crack! Grange are sending me a copy of the fight so I can review before sending it on. Ringside on the night, side-on the punch landed but without real force, a split second later his feet slid out from under him and he went straight down. The momentum of the shot at the time did not IMO opinion cause Mundine to touch down but it was incidental, if he had gone backwards and touched down then I would looked at scoring it a knockdown. As I said this was in a split second on the night and I wasn't right next to it. A review of the DVD could well change my mind
     
  15. kel

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    I agree with you Phil, no way it was a knock down.