Ngannou vs Marciano?

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Can Ngannou catch Marciano like Walcott and Moore did? And if he does, does Marciano ever wake up?

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
     
  2. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    MMA or Boxing? This is very important.
     
  3. jyeahfosho

    jyeahfosho mrtechnicalboxer Full Member

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    Can he catch him? Probably. And Rocky would keep on coming and knock Ngannou the f out. You think Ngannou hits harder than Louis with gloves on?
     
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    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I really want one of the pro heavyweight champions to hit that machine at the ufc performance institute.
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Putting gloves on an MMA fighter drastically cuts their power output. You certainly wouldn't see the exact same fighter duplicating that with gloves.

    Far harder to find that "sweet spot" for the clean one punch knockout with gloves, as opposed to MMA where the hand protection is so much smaller.
     
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    BoxFreakBen New Member Full Member

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    yes im curious who hits harder: ngannou or joshua?
     
  7. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What makes you think he doesn't? Because it's Joe Louis??
     
  8. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The **** SI is a "unit"?

    Even if you do track down the SI their "units" are in what are they doing using electronics to measure kinetics? How hard does X hit? Oh about 0.19 watt hours. That makes sense does it?

    Electrical energy can be converted into kinetic energy sure, but why not start with kinetic energy, get a kinetic energy reading, and publish a kinetic feat in kinetic terms?

    What I'm getting at is they're using an accelerometer so that they can take that figure and decide which electrical energy to kinetic energy conversion makes the fighter look his best. What sum gives the most impressive number.

    Elsewhere I was told it's in Franklins. I've also been told it's in Newtons. Some have claimed feet per second while others foot-pounds per second. Doesn't matter. 129,000k in all cases comes out to an unrealistic ballistics figure.

    If Francis hits as hard as they're claiming without any math ****ery to fudge the claim or make it appear more impressive than what the hell is Reem doing with a face? How did the measuring pad absorb more than three times the energy of the most powerful firearms man can wield?

    If they measure him on a pendulum in foot-pounds it'll bite. Until then that hardest punch nonsense is a promo stunt and nothing more.
     
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  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Power on its own is not worth two buckets of warm spit in heavyweight boxing.

    Nobody is beating Marciano on power alone, however hard they hit!
     
  10. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    It's most definitely a promo stunt. At the very least a faulty machine that doesn't measure actual punching power. The previous record holder was Tyrone Spong, a small heavyweight kickboxer who was never known for power
     
  11. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nonsense. Lennox has him licked with every punch!
     
  12. janitor

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    If you are right, then presumably you would credit Lewis with bringing more than power to the table?
     
  13. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He does.

    Right cross/Straight? Lewis.
    Uppercut? Lewis.
    Hook? Lewis.
    Jab? Lewis.
     
  14. janitor

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    Right, so if Lewis were to beat Marciano, it would be no indication that Ngannou was likely to do the same.