objective look at ppv

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  1. bigdavey22

    bigdavey22 Member Full Member

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    There has been a lot said about ppv recently and obviously people get annoyed with the extra money being paid out (myself included)

    However with this I think we need to take an objective view at the situation. For example let's take froch/groves. Would anyone know even rough figures for the fight. Eg

    Purses, venue hire, Michael buffer if he comes etc etc.

    Eddie is constantly saying about giving people the choice to watch or not but he would at least give the choice. A fan of eddies or not we should at least be objective rather than write solely with the £15 price tag at the front of our minds.

    So could it happen without ppv? Or is it the over demanding purses of the fighters. Would be interesting to see actual costs and whether the show could proceed just in sky sports 1
     
  2. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nobody forces anyone to purchase a PPV event.Should only the "hard core" boxing fan purchase the event it will send a message to the promoter that future so-so fights will not be tolerated as a PPV night at the fights.
    Hit them where it hurts the most,their pocket books.
     
  3. elbrujito

    elbrujito Well-Known Member Full Member

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    froch groves is meant to have an amazing undercard to justify ppv - will just have to wait and see on that one

    this fight im sure could happen without ppv - froch bute did.

    buffer doesnt come cheap i wonder how much he gets paid would rather the money was spent on the undercard. he did burns beltran and the undercard was crap
     
  4. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's a PPV fight because the demand is there.

    A fight that sells out 20,000 seats in 11 minutes is a PPV fight whether you like it or not.
     
  5. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The sales figure is an overall picture though, the facts behind them are many 3rd party companies bought them in bulk to sell on at an inflated price. its not like 20,000 fans have bought tickets in that time which is a totally different demand level
     
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    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My big big problem with PPV is the poor quality of the undercards, i can understand certain fights will need to have big money involved to happen, but in return if i'm going to shell out extra then the undercard should be top drawer, meaning a world title fight and maybe a big domestic showdown, not Bellew Chillemba and Groves vs Nobodies thats taking the ****
     
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    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Will there be 20,000 people there?
     
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    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We dont know yet do we, so the quote about 11 minutes is quite irrelevant
     
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    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It really isn't. It's a fight that will definitely have 20,000 people in attendance and will do decent PPV numbers I'm sure.

    PPV is like any product, if you do not feel you are getting value for money, don't buy it.
     
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    Vyborg1917 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Technology has universally eliminated the necessity of paying to watch any big fight. Bills should be pretty well stacked to entice a paying public, not qualitatively inferior to what were the historical PPV benchmarks.

    Unabashed, unashamed parasitism by Matchroom and Sky.
     
  11. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The time is irrelevant because companies bought them in bulk and are selling on in a time scale a lot longer than 11 minutes.

    If the demand from individual fans had led to them all gone in that time, that would be very impressive.

    Whether or not its PPV worthy, for me im not sure yet. It seems a shame that to see the majority of top level boxing with domestic contenders involved means ppv
     
  12. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Why did they buy them in bulk? Because they are of the opinion they can sell them all on for profit. This renders it relevant.

    If they saw no value in the proposition they wouldn't get involved.
     
  13. Mufc30

    Mufc30 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a common way of selling event tickets and companies to make money, the amount of time it took a few companies to buy loads of tickets its irrelevant. What would be more interesting is how long they take to shift them
     
  14. Josephd86

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    That's happens for every event.
     
  15. bigdavey22

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    Yes the companies hosting and promoting the fight will have the money to make these things happen.

    However we must understand that all these people are running businesses that need profit. So could these shows happen without ppv and the companies make money?

    Or are they greedy?

    Sounds like bomb part of the promotion but the key word is objective