Origins of the Phrase

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  1. jdempsey85

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    Happy as Larry was a aussie champ

    Bring home the bacon came from Joe Gans mother

    Sunny Jim was a promoter who held his fights at midday

    The real mccoy etc

    There's loads of phrases you hear today directly related to boxing,football commentators every week say "there on the ropes"

    Anymore?
     
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    He can run but he can't hide

    Stakes

    Purse

    Fans

    Toeing the line

    Coming up to scratch
     
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    Saved by the bell.
     
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    Good stuff. I always wondered, where when & why did the word "bum" get used to indicate low quality fighters?
     
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    The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
     
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    And why do we call boxers who will lose the match but fights for money a journeyman and not a jobber?
     
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    People mis-use the term 'journeyman' these days.
    It should mean someone who is a good craftsman, but not a master craftsman.
     
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    I was wrong

    In the United States, the phrase became associated with boxer Kid McCoy.[6] Quinion notes that "It looks very much – without being able to say for sure – as though the term was originally the real Mackay, but became converted to the real McCoy in the US, either under the influence of Kid McCoy, or for some other reason."[4] This claim is dubious, however, as Kid McCoy was only nine years old when "the real McCoy" appeared in The Rise and Fall of the "Union club."[5]