Orthodox vs Southpaw

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  1. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is the best advice so far. I'm a southpaw myself and the tactics mentioned do work if executed well of course, although I would be tempted to try and stay close to the guy and make it a battle between his right and your left, a fencing match between lead hands is where his familiarity with righties comes into play.

    Do you know what the guys record is greg?
     
  2. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Naw, you're a bit Schmeling (not sad at all, only astute).
    Aww, Jesus!:patsch:lol: (Now you HAVE to win, so I don't get censured by the other ESBers for misleading you.)
    You'll probably review it before I do. I'm very curious as to what you'll have to say about it.
    So it was a timely suggestion then. Cool. (Now I feel better.)
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    the guy is 5-0 although I'm a patchy 5-9 ive got alot more experiance.

    Best way to learn.

    :lol::lol:

    Im quite interested in it now.

    #I enjoyed it anyway.
     
  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If all else fails, Antuofermo said, "They're only southpaws until you get 'em inside." (I don't think he was the first to say it, but he's the one I remember. Of course he was also stopped by southpaws Hope, Minter and Hagler, but he did give the latter two hell first time around.)
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Watched Hagler vs Geraldo, and it is a very entertaining fight and I had forgotten how good it was.

    Hagler did seem in controll as he landed the harder shots and was just the class above but geraldo caused alot of problems especially in the middle rounds.

    The biggest problem Geraldo poses is he only fights in flurries so whilst he isnt attacking he is focussed on defence and very tricky to hit.

    But his sucess with neautrilising Haglers southpaw advantage by circling to his left that made Hagler have to get himself set every time he wanted to punch, and also it allowed geraldo to jab.
     
  6. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hear that you've posted some videos of you boxing, could you post a link for me mate?
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent! (I'm relieved you approve. How long had it been since you'd last seen it?) My most vivid memory was of the way Geraldo did circle to his left, controlling the movement in the ring according to his own preference instead of Marv's.

    When Ali defended against Mildenberger, I felt he was sort of "pandering" to the German southpaw by continually circling right, directly towards Karl's left to the body. Mildenberger really nailed him with that blow to the stomach only once that I saw (doubling him over), but he could have tried exploiting Muhammad's counterclockwise movement considerably more than he did. (Holmes circled right with speed in the first match with Shavers, and I dare say he looked better at it than Ali did against Mildenberger. SRL also circled right a great deal, normally an awkward way for an orthodox boxer to move.) Ten years later, Ali didn't express much concern about dealing with southpaw Dunn, but went straight to work with those right leads, and picked him apart.

    My favorite one round shellacking of a world class southpaw was Cuevas/Backus. Pipino was best known for his deadly hook, but he put it in storage for this one, and winged lead rights to Billy's head from the opening bell, driving him back and clockwise. Cuevas is not thought of as a strategist, but he was a competent one within his slugging limitations, and this was never more evident than when he retired Backus in three minutes with a fractured eye socket.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Yeh i'll PM you the links

    Although theyre all pretty old and I aint had a fight filme din a while but will get oen this saturday.

    I myself circle to the right alot against orthodox's so it has been hard trying to not do it.

    I'll watch Cuevas vs Backus, see what I think about it.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=j7s2Z9DdlwM
    http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=Xq7oV3CRQKw

    On this next link there is afew different sections if you click on more videos by the user and fish around theres afew scraps of me boxing
    http://www. youtube.com/watch?v=ddzUA2j1xBM


    Just posted it in here instead of PMing it
     
  10. teeto

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  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Thanks Teeto, been watching Hopkins he is the man
     
  12. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Pisses me off when people don't like watching him. People need to sort their priorities out, degenerates.

    You feeling good for tomorrow?
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Hopkins is awesome to watch I even enjoyed teh Taylor fights :lol::lol:

    Yeh I feel great, I'm topping the show in my hometown. Can't feel better.

    So up for it
     
  14. janitor

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    You are not going to find a better fighter to watch to learn the trade in this era.

    A lot of fighters in this era have watched Jersey Joe Walcott. Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore to pick up tips.

    Future fighters will likley watch Hopkins.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Definitly.

    Hopkins studied alot of the old time guys himself especially the Murderer's Row.