Ortiz vs Berto update

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  1. sgarcia805

    sgarcia805 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Apparntley Ortiz camp wants a 143 catchweight, Berto camp wants 147. Dibella is confident that Ortiz will take the 147 and negotiations will go through. Good fight IMO both need to prove something and if the loser goes out like a *****, they could become a gatekeeper
     
  2. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz is not ready for this kind or fight, and I honestly don't think he will ever be. Easy fight for Berto in my eyes. Berto has the speed to counter and the pop to scare the crap out of sissy Ortiz.
     
  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz gets starched at any weight.
     
  4. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    collazo stunned berto, ortiz would knock him out. ortiz should take the fight without the catchweight, if he wants to come in at 143 then do that, forget the weight berto comes in at, as long as its not over 147.
     
  5. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Interesting fight. I can envision Ortiz' power being able to trouble Berto or worse. Ultimately I think Berto's speed and explosiveness would overwhelm the will of Ortiz.

    Hope they can come to an agreement.
     
  6. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Well Cintron said he'll take it at 147. I wonder why he won't fight Cintron? Or at least Aydin his mando.
     
  7. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    Ortiz has no reason to ask for a catchweight. If he's had a hard time making 140 lately, he would stand to benefit at welterweight.
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I would be so pissed if I was Aydin. Well Berto-Ortiz sounds like a good fight and Ortiz could possibly outbox and/or stop him so the danger is still there though Berto is still fighting a 140 pounder again.(sigh)
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Berto wants the big name fights, and losing to Cintron, which is very possible, de-rails that gravy train.

    Basically, Berto doesn't want to work his way to the top the hard way, he wants it handed to him. Shame...
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Ortiz didnt have a vagina between his legs, I'd give a real shot against Berto.... but he does have a vagina.

    Berto's speed is gonna intimidate Ortiz. Victor has never really faced anyone before who had a speed edge over him. He's used to fighting slow guys, and old timers.

    Berto is gonna land first, and I suspect that once he starts tagging Ortiz... Victor will mentally fall apart.

    I dont like Berto, and he's one of the biggest cherry pickers theres ever been.... but in the ring he has shown heart when pressed. Something Ortiz hasnt shown.

    This is gonna be a beat down in favor of Berto. And I'll enjoy every moment of it.

    But if by some chance Ortiz does KO him.... great! I cant stand either one of them!
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He wont get the catch weight. Only Floyd, Manny, and Cotto are big enough stars to demand catch weights.... Ortiz is a nobody. Thats basically what Dibella said as well, and he's correct.
     
  12. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz can and will beat Bertoe if he can deal with his speed...
     
  13. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz the quitter is gonna get destroyed and then we'll be rid of the baby once and for all
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He also has to deal with more then speed, like quick combination firing right back. And someone naturally larger then him or any other opponewnts he's faced. If Ortiz could get discouraged by Peterson, Berto should be able to take Ortiz fire away.
     
  15. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a shame. This guy was someone who has all the skills to be a future p4p star but he is missing the one main ingredient to become one.

    I think he needs to visit the wizard of Oz and get himself a heart!