Ortiz vs Wilder

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Who wins, assuming this fight does happen?

  1. Ortiz

    18 vote(s)
    40.9%
  2. Wilder

    26 vote(s)
    59.1%
  1. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Say Ortiz and Wilder do finally fight. (Fingers crossed )

    Who wins?
     
  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Tough call!!

    DW looks great against the top 10 to 20 guys for sure, even the top 10 guys,

    The top 5 guys?

    Not so much so tough call.

    When this fight gets signed i will make a guess.

    If this fight gets made i will be so proud of Wilder and Ortiz!!!
     
  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    To be fair though, it was signed before and didn't happen. Wilder Sasha got to less than a week I think. When we get to the night before and it's still on, THEN I'll believe it will happen.

    For who wins, I lean Wilder but Ortiz has maybe a 40% chance.
     
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  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder just has to bait work out of Ortiz until the late rounds. King Kong has never fought a young heavy handed fighter for a reason.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    'IF" Wilder fights Ortiz, but will Ortiz get framed by VADA again? If Wilder does fight Ortiz, then I would say that they got a copy of Ortiz' birth certificate and found out that he is really 50 years old, plus Wilder will require that Ortiz drink a few bottles of cheat wine before coming into the right. Wilder's corner will have plenty of banana peelings just in case. However, Wilder could hire Tony Weeks, then all Wilder would have to do is punch Ortiz in the testicles and Weeks will stop the fight! A testicle TKO! He did it for SOB Ward!
     
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  6. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PLOT TWIST:

    Deontay Wilder has fought no one for a reason.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pick'em fight for me. We haven't seen Wilder fight anyone half as good as even an old Ortiz. It's one thing to out box a small heavy like Stiverne or a shot crude fighter like Arreola, it will be much tougher vs a big strong counter puncher like Ortiz.

    I can see a strategy for either man to win. Wilder could use his height, reach and movement to out box Ortiz, who doesn't cut off the ring well and who prefers to sit back and counter rather than be on the front foot.

    Ortiz with his southpaw stance could give Wilder trouble. Ortiz has in the past used his lead right to consistently block an orthodox opponents jab and take their jab away from them. If he does this to Wilder, Wilder will struggle as we saw vs Washington when he couldn't find the range for his jab. Wilder without his jab is far less effective and could get frustrated and get reckless.

    If Wilder does get reckless and look to impose his power maybe he can take Ortiz out he does hit hard but we've never seen Ortiz hurt and if he misses Ortiz is the kind of counter puncher than can definitely KO Wilder with one good shot.

    I think it will come down to if Wilder can establish his jab. If he can he wins a decision if he can't he instigates a brawl and gets KO'ed.
     
  8. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I suspect wilder wins this but it's so hard to say as we've never seen him in with anybody good. Deontay may be truly awful and be knocked out in 1.
     
  9. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Ortiz is old and slow, wilder will jump on him and blow him out no problem.

    Common opponent Malik Scott aswell tells you something
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tells us Ortiz couldn't afford the bribe to ensure Scott took a dive.
     
  11. Max Thunder

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    Wilder is 32 years old and has not fought anybody of note, he doesn't have any experience how to deal with guys who are not 50/1 underdogs. Ortiz is young, hungry, in his prime and will KTFO that donkey inside 3 rounds.
     
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  12. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Young and in his prime? :lol:
     
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  13. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not dumb enough to need a conspiracy theory to explain how a black man from dixie ends up with no opportunities. I'm sorry you lot are and I'm very sorry you're too stupid to see how absolutely ridiculous the notion is.

    No matter how large the rabble gets it will always be as an absurd charge as flat earth or a ****in' pegasus.

    That said, yeah because the division's a bunch of pussies. Take Wilder out of the equation and amazingly they're still pussies....amazeballs.
     
  14. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    “King Kong has never fought a young heavy handed fighter “

    32 is not what I’d call “young”, and we don’t really know if Wilder has the one shot KO power that some think he has


    because he has never faced anyone on the upper level after 40 fights


    I predict Ortiz to take a few rounds to feel wilder out and set his pace, then Ortiz will be getting inside Wilders reach, Ortiz will run him in a corner knock him out

    Ortiz by tko. Mid rounds. And it’s going to look rather easy for him. He is on another level entirely then Wilder is
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Because the two top HW he signed to fight decided to use drugs, that's why he hasn't.
     
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