P4P top 15

a question surely asked often but i am new to this forum and would like to share my own with you and compare. I found this forums weight division p4p lists very interesting.

here is my list..

1) Sam Langford
2) Roberto Duran
3) Bob Fitzsimmons
4) James Jeffries
5) Harry Greb
6) Sugar Ray Robinson
7) Jack Dempsey
8) Barney Ross
9) Willie Pep
10) Non Pareil Jack Dempsey
11) Barbados Joe Walcott
12) Benny Leonard
13) Jack Britton
14) Henry Armstrong
15) Mickey Walker

 

What's the criteria? Achievements, resume, or just skill/ability?

My thoughts are just... eh. The bold ones are interesting. Never seen the two Jack Dempsey's in a top 10 P4P list. Number 4 would be hilarious even if it were a HW list.

 

That's a terrible ****ing list. No Joe Louis?
And Ray Robinson isn't #1?

 

Joe Louis isn't a lock for a top 15 P4P list. Why on Earth would he be #1?

 

meant ray robinson

 

It's not a given that Robinson is #1. Either way, Jeffries among the top 5 is ludicrous.

 

Neither is he (For being #1).

I have far more qualms with Armstrong being 14 than Robinson 6.

 

His pick for #1 is actually the only decent bit of his shitty list.

 

I certainly think he should be. Who's #1 P4P then? Armstrong?
And maybe even Leonard should be in there somewhere. I Don't like Duran's placement. Muhammad Ali could be in there too.

 

Langford, Fitzsimmons, Armstrong, and Greb all have arguments for the top spot, the way I see it.

 

To have some fun. A mix of head-to-head and accomplishments.

01. Joe Gans
02. Packey McFarland
03. Benny Leonard
04. Sugar Ray Robinson
05. Harry Greb
06. Roy Jones Jr
07. Kid Gavilan
08. Floyd Mayweather Jr
09. Barney Ross
10. Sugar Ray Leonard

 

I like to see Packey McFarland getting a mention but I was wondering could you tell me a bit more about the criteria for the list. Surely Armstrong has done most accomplishment wise as a P4P'er.

For me Robisnson gets top spot because talent wise he is unsurpassed.

Duranium has to be on a wum. I'm new myself but he's got to be on a windup between this and his heavyweight list on another thread.

 

I'm not sure Fitz does but the others I agree on. SRR being #1 is an ingrained thought, but based on achievements and resume many have an argument for that position. If you think otherwise, you'd have to be far too rigid and set in your group-think ways, or perhaps just lack imagination. AND SRR is my #1!

 

Here's mine. I Have a lot of trouble deciding though.
#1. Sugar Ray Robinson/Sugar Nikolai Valuev
#2. Manny Pacquiao
#3. Henry Armstrong
#4. Oscar De La Hoya
#5. Eric Esch
#6. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
#7. Sugar Ray Leonard
#8. Henry Greb
#9. Muhammad Ali
#10. Joe Frazier

 

*Edit* Forget that... this has to be a joke.